[Chris Reinhardt]

Broque, is that Celtic for annoying?  :)

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[Chris Reinhardt]

[quote quote=5413]you never heard of a seal tool kit? who said anything about rusty sockets? no slip fit crank halves hmm? oook lol [/quote]

 

Have a nice day Broke……

[Chris Reinhardt]

[quote quote=5387]um correct me if im wrong but doesnt the tranny side crank case halve lift off the crank? the stator side of the crank is pressed in… not sure why you guys are heating the cases to press a crank in? ive done numerous cases for cr motors and a press does fine with no heat. a seal tool kit will press int he seal nice and even without the crank in place.. why would you complicate such a simple installation? I understand about seal alignment and do so with the seal tool kit and mic it after??? [/quote]

 

Broke, I have no idea what you just said!!!!  Neither side slips in from the factory if that’s what you were referring to….

How does your seal instal tool work with the crank installed?  I can pop almost any Honda seal in with my thumb if there’s no shaft in place, straight as an arrow, no worries.  The issue is when the shaft is in place.

Necessity being the mother of all invention,  I had a bad stator side crank seal that I needed to install with the crank in place at the track.  Pull the seat out, pop the stator wires out from the cutout in the case, pull the flywheel, carefully remove the old seal with a flat blade, install the new seal as I’ve described with the home made tool, done!  After seeing how easily it actually works, and how perfect the seal goes in without worrying, I do them all like that every time.

People can do it this way, they can not do it this way, use a BFH and a rusty socket, whatever floats your boat….

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[Chris Reinhardt]

Keith, you have buy in cost, operation cost, and modification cost.

With stock Honda, you don’t have ANY modification costs, and the operational costs are lower.

The sales pitch with the ICC stuff was that it comes out of the box fast, and all the parts are racing specific and therefore last longer justifying the higher prices.  That’s what everybody thought back in the day when they switched from Mod’s to ICC.

Well, we all know that if the rules allow for modifications, somebody will do it.  So you buy an off the shelf KZ, Tom tells you just bring it up to “spec” and then you proceed get spanked by a Tech Sav mill!  So then your fairly reliable 50 liter between top ends KZ gets sent off to Tech Sav to get built.  It comes back, your wallet is waaaaay lighter, and  you now have a fast as snot KZ ticking time bomb!!!

Now on the other hand, you buy a stock Honda from your favorite source, and you send it out to get built, sorry wait a minute, you can’t modify a Stock Honda.  So you buy it, then you run it, then maintain it……..

That’s basically the difference between a Stock Honda and a KZ in a nut shell….

Now if there were a “Stock KZ” class, then yes you would have to find the best motor for the track, or best motor overall each homologation period.  That couldn’t be too expensive at all…….

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[Chris Reinhardt]

Thanks for the clarification as usually Ian….  Really doesn’t matter if the 450’s are scored differently or not, they were all running together.  He was on the pole ahead of ALL the 250’s, he turned a faster time that weekend than ALL the 250’s, and he won overall on Sunday’s race over ALL the 250’s.

That kind of ends the argument if the 450’s are fast enough compared to the 250’s, that’s all I’m saying….

I’m wondering if the 450’s decided to run alone, or weren’t invited to run with the 250’s…. :0

[Chris Reinhardt]

Summer Nats,  that is SKUSA????  I didn’t realize that they indicated a particular spot, but I know many organization DO NOT allow for mounting on the helmet anywhere… SKUSA and SCCA being a few of them…

I’m thinking front fairing is pretty easy to be able to run a tether to the camera?  The flying camera is another issue…

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[Chris Reinhardt]

What a great weekend from the folks at WKC!!!! Everybody was so nice from the ladies in sign up, to all the track personnel.  I would suggest making time for the Summit event, should be another great one!!!!

What an awesome track layout!!!  I couldn’t get enough of coming up the through the esses flatout with the Superkart!!!!

I have some video from the ESK pre_final I’ll post up once I have it edited….

[Chris Reinhardt]

You still have to use a washer under, otherwise it’s trial and error,  and you risk damaging the seal

[Chris Reinhardt]

Dude, whatever,  but smacking a seal with a socket and a hammer isn’t the right way to install one in any application, just shade tree mechanics 101.

 

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[Chris Reinhardt]

A hunk of tubing and a washer, real complicated!!!!  You can’t “over think” a motor build, that’s how you improve it…. You’ll find out that the straighter the seal is, the better it will seal, the less it will drag, and the longer it will last….

I know, it’s not measurable, but that’s how you blue print a motor, all those little things add up….

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[Chris Reinhardt]

Chris, would you be so kind as to post a few photos of this fab’d tool?

Dude, it’s a hunk of tubing and a washer, use your imagination!!!

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[Chris Reinhardt]

It look like a aftermarket only carb, no OEM application….

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mikuni-Super-SBN-38-mm-38mm-Carburetor-Carb-Brand-New-/190459013132

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[Chris Reinhardt]

I always install the seals after the cases are assembled.  I fabricated a “tool” just for the job.    Basically it’s a hunk of tubing that fits over the crank, and a large washer that lays on the seal.  On the primary side use a bolt that threads into the crank end to draw the seal in, and on the stator side, use the nut on the crank to pull it in.  Works perfect, pulls them in nice and straight every time.

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[Chris Reinhardt]

Sounds like you hit the wall with something, porting, ignition timing, compression, pipe. Pick one, change it, repeat. That’s basically how you dyno test/Tune….

Either that, or the testing procedure/test cell is not consistent….

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[Chris Reinhardt]

Riley, if that were true, KZ would be more popular here in the states where there’s a choice. The rest of the world, KZ is shoved down everybody’s throat….
I’m with Jimmy on this one…..

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[Chris Reinhardt]

Sorry, here’s the link to the results…
http://www.superkart.org.uk/downloads/2013/Results/BGP%20F250N%20Results.pdf

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