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FYI Go Kart friends,
We are once again planning to have the Shifter Go Kart on display at the World of Wheels custom auto Show at State Fair Park West Allis Wi. from Friday, February 20, to Sunday, February 22, 2015
Craig Hemmen & myself plan on being there on all those days to work the booth for The Badger Go Kart Club of Dousman Wi. and talk about how to get involved in Kart Racing and to talk about were you can race a shifter kart in the nearby area.
First place Shifter Championship Machine for the 2014 season
Thanks Bob Horvath
Jordan,
Shifters are alive and well at Road America Elkhart Lake, WI.
We have events about every other weekend for twelve weeks during the summer race season.
All shifters run together heads up > Honda’s, Motto’s, ICC’s and ETC.
We get about 18 competitors per event. All makes and engine combinations too.
I think they adding a bone stock Honda CR125 class this year too.
Come race with us and have lots and lots of fun doing it.
I’m 69 years old and have been in and out karting since about it’s inception in 1958.
My Kart driver Craig Hemmen is a retired Sprint Car Driver / Owner > 64 yrs. old
We both were just dabbling in karting with a couple of TaG. karts for a retirement thing to do…Thinking that we were just “Too old” to competitively Kart Race.
We got so enthralled with shifters after getting a sample test ride in one that we each purchased a machine and got competitive 110%. and won this even below:
2014 Road America at Elkhart Lake Wi. Seasons (Unlimited Expert class) Shifter Championship Won By # 92 Craig Hemmen on a 2014 Praga Dragon Kart > Tuner / Mechanic Bob Horvath ( Me ) > Honda engine Mods by Eric Gorr of Forward Motion.
Thanks Bob and Craig
Robert Horvath Oconomowoc Wi 53066 U.S.A
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Road America Motorplex[/caption]And a update PS > On my Telemetry system :
Although the telemetry system can read back all the engine’s parameters….I probably will just do the “EGT” And “GPs Speed” (self contained) as the rest are somewhat irrelevant to our type of shifter racing.
This way I can quickly transfer the small engine transmitter feedback unit from kart to kart with just one “Y” connection to the same Aim / MyChron EGT sensor that’s already installed most shifters anyway.
And get all the Karts in our little group dialed in on exhaust temp.
The photo below : Is of the Remote control Tilly Carb (36mm), Receiver, Servos and Battery all being fully self contained on the HW-24 carb itself.
It fits fine on the Honda CR125 with a specially made by my nephew (Barry) Tilly intake manifold and room to spare !
Below is a photo of the small engine transmitter feedback unit. reading back to a laptop.
1.5 mile range
or to a small portable hand held read out unit like below :
Ocono Bob
Robert Horvath atOconomowoc Wi 53066 U.S.A.
Chris Reinhart,
Are we on the same page on this thing ? Or am I missing something ?
You Say > “There’s some better packages out there…..”
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__508__172__FPV_Telemetry-FrSky_Telemetry.html
All I see is a Temp Sensor that won’t do the one most important reading > “EGT”
From what I read it doesn’t read to over 250 degrees
FrSky TEMS-01 Telemetry Temperature Sensor (for use with FrSky Telemetry Sensor Hub)
Up to two temperature sensors can be used at the same time. They are commonly used to read temperatures of model accessories, such as electric motor, ESC, glow and gas engine cylinder head, battery, muffler, voltage regulator, BEC, tail pipe and ambient air.
Measurement Range: -20~250 degrees Celsius/ -4~482 degrees Fahrenheit
Accuracy: 1 degree Celsius/ 1 degree Fahrenheit
Installation: Use zip ties to hold the temperature sensor tightly against the accessory that requires temperature reading.In fact > although the telemetry system can read back all the engine’s parameters….I probably will just do the “EGT” And “GPs Speed” as the rest are somewhat irrelevant to racing.
You Say > “Nicad’s, really? Hmm High Tech….”
So then > What battery do suggest as I have tried them all and Nicad’s Stand up the best to the engines vibration with the Carb, Receiver, Servos And Battery all being fully self contained on the carb itself.
Note the lithium-ion battery is the first one to give up the ghost !
Some of these negative comments are what all us innovators come to expect after a period of time.
When Edison invented the “Light Bulb” people said “We don’t need it …Kerosene is working just fine for a lamp.
Or when I bought a Electronic Paddle shifting unit from Europe and installed it on our Kart.
Link :
http://www.mechatron-kart.com/me-shifter-f1.html
Even my close friends scoffed at the Idea of paddle shifting.
But by the end of the season they all switched over to the paddle system…It makes driving a shifter such a breeze and safer too with both hands on the wheel.
On a very short track like our 6/10 mile tight twisty track..I’ll go head to head with any bump shifter out there and when is all said and done the paddle driver with be a lot less fatigued and will have felt like he was in a Big Indy Car to boot.
You Say > “Cool tinkering, but waaaaaay too involved for a kart…”
Why Not ?
Here is a photo below of the finished machine… All set for the 2014 seasons with almost all of my inventions on it.
It doesn’t look too complicated to me for a kart .
Ocono Bob
Pete,
You brought up some good points and I can’t find fault with any of them.
I’m so old (age 69) I’ve grown old along with the fun sport of karting all my life.
It’s the same old story > First a lawn mower engine -Then a West Bend-Then some Mac 6s and 10s & on & on.
But maybe the best years (1980) were like you say > My two girls on two Yamaha karts fitted with the KT-100 and me on a Zip Kart with a KT-100
Very inexpensive Karting back then with that equipment.
But now myself and my close friends (and I’m not trying to tell other karters what to do) We just want to see how far we can take a Honda CR125 shifter —Cost not being a factor within some sort of reason.
Thanks
Ocono Bob
I’ve posted this you youtube before ..But it’s always fun to watch again:
Link :
Go Kart Racing Telemetry by remote control
Go Kart Friends,
I don’t know if anybody is still reading these posts….But here below is the final piece of the puzzle :A lot electronic components packed into this small on board Telemetry box below :
1) Over voltage DC to DC converter/protection module.
2) Six volt high capacity Ni Cad rechargeable battery pack.
3) Recorder logger module.
4) Ambient air temperature module.
5) coolant temperature module.
6) Exhaust Gas temperature module.
7) Magnetic induction RPM pick up module.
8) Full function GPS module.
9) High output transmitter for the telemetry system.
10) Side mounted on/off switch with an external charging port.
Ocono Bob
Steve,
You say :
“It occurred to me that your tuning system would be a real useful tool for a good dyno setup”
Actually that’s how I got involved with Tillotson in the first place.
They read one of my ekarting news post about my earliest remote carb adjuster and asked me to make one for them to use in there engine / carb testing room.
And that’s how this whole Telemetry thing got conceived in the first place and then talked about again at the 2013 Vegas Super Nats with Tillotson.
PS > I also manufacture in my garage besides the shifter external starter motor …Two other types of gear reduction external cranking motors for Karts without a gearbox. Very light and very powerful too.
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Ocono Bob
Steve,
Now you struck a cord in me.
I hope this isn’t to far off the topic ?
I’m so old (age 69) it doesn’t seem vintage to me because I was there in those very early years (1958 to about 1961) with my Fox Go Boy with a 2 1/2 Clinton engine and then after that a Simplex Kart and Dual West Bend power plants….That seemed to me at the time to be as fast as a lot karts out there today ?
I must have watch this 16mm promo film below about ten times when Mcculloch chainsaws was into karting big time at our 1961 Sport Show .
The whole thing is pretty good.
Back in that day it took two strong men to start a Twin Mac Kart !
(Even with little man Don Knotts at the wheel)
(July 21, 1924 – February 24, 2006)
At time > about 6:50
And check out that trophy gal…That’s one long kiss..I don’t get out to the races much on a Sunday….Do they still do that when you get your Trophy at our racetrack > Badger ?
At time > about 9:50
McCulloch Kart Promotion Movie circa 1961 – YouTube
Ocono BobSteve,
As you can see.
I’m a Karter, engineer, inventor,innovator …But…not a writer.
I re-wrote it a bit and added a few more photos to further clear up what I’m trying to say here.
One more thing.
After I make post like re-installing the kick starter back on the engine everyone tells me “That just won’t work Horvath” but they never tell me why it won’t work ? Must be just an old “Wives Tail” ?
We all have been using the KickStart for a few years now with absolutely no trouble at all ?
They say what’s wrong with just pushing it to start.
That can get very tiring after a few times….What if you spin and stall out on the “back forty” that can be a long walk back.
With the Kick back on you just re-start yourself and finish the race!
A snapshot below of # 92 Shifter Kart at the Wi. Rod & Custom show and me Bob Horvath (the old guy in the photo) and my grandson Myles Beck.
PS That’s just a mannequin in the kart itself.
Ocono Bob
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