[Keith Bridgeman]

I wonder is Pavesi still making new engines?   And if so have they changes at all since 2000.

[Keith Bridgeman]

SKUSA started ICC’s in 2002 as an introductory class in the promoto tour.    I know that JM racing was pushing the Tony Kart , Vortex combo at the time.    Seems like in the first years all the way up to Stars of Tomorrow it was all about TM, Pavesi and CRS.  CRS died off pretty quickly after Hurricane Racing closed.    Now like Howie said its pretty much TM and Maxter.     On the world scene TM, Maxter, IAME, Modenas, Vortex all get entries with TM still being half the grids.

[Keith Bridgeman]

Was going to do the Open class along with Masters but two classes might be a bit much.  Still thinking about it.     The open class is open to ICC, Mod Honda and STock honda correct?

[Keith Bridgeman]

Was the TAG races a Rotax Max Challence series race.  Wow.

Great shifter counts, wish that could happen at all the rounds.

[Keith Bridgeman]

Thanks Eric for this info.  So the older Rotax will still perform up to speed with the newer ones but there are some changes to make.

[Keith Bridgeman]

[quote quote=6335]Will there be any shops at the track this weekend selling parts? I’m in need of a 20 and 21 tooth axle gear for my shifter. They’re hard to find around indy I’m finding out…

 

Joe

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I bought a 21 gear at the track last time so there is a shop at the track with them.

[Keith Bridgeman]

Both are great.  I would guess the TM is the most available.  Parts costs and maintenance will be about the same.  Ease of use will be the same.   I have a Maxter and it has been perfect but I know the TM’s seem to be 3/4’s the grid in most places.    I don’t think you can go wrong with either.

[Keith Bridgeman]

Its ok you don’t understand Chris,  maybe someone else will crasp the concept.  Sit this one out.

[Keith Bridgeman]

For crying out load,  I’m not talking about what was done or what can be done, whatever.  If all costs where equal.    If you bought the damn engine and over 3 years you put the same amount into each over those years whats your choice.   Its not that hard to understand.

[Keith Bridgeman]

Darn it, here we go.   Its really simple.  ALL COSTS are EQUAL.   What would you choose.  Don’t make it more then it is.

KZ engines are perfect out of the box.  My first ICC was a CRS which was out of the box stock for the whole year I had it and I was faster then my mod honda straight away.   The modification of engines is not the KZ or any engines fault.  Does the honda need to be modified?  I guess not,   Stock Moto right!   Same for KZ.

I just won a race on a 2006 Maxter.   There where 2002 Pavesi’s and TM k9s that where right there.   Unless your top level the whole you need the latest is bunk and you know it.

Nevermind this argument,  its not going to work.   I thought it might be fun

 

Chris,  I ran stock moto all of 2010.   Good engine, ran great all year, power was good. I’ve owned many KZ, mod honda and stock honda engines so I need now history lesson.

Also the parts engine you by from Skark Shifter and put it together is not the same as the national level engines by a builder.  Close,  sure but I bet there are at least 2-3 hp difference.  You know that.

 

[Keith Bridgeman]

Here is a question,

If all costs of purchase and operation where equal what engine would you buy,  stock honda, mod honda or KZ – whatever brand.      So the basic answer will be, is cost a major issue for you or is it more about function, etc.

[Keith Bridgeman]

I have a Maxter also,   18-21

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