[Derek Lodato]

There is a front straight by the pits that is about 600ft … if you look at the map when they open up the full course the back straight goes about 700ft+ then sweeps to the right but it is almost an all out sweeper with light blips off the throttle. That whole section is good amount of feet.

If they close the full course the track becomes more tight with about a 600ft + straight.

[Derek Lodato]

@ Shaun .. No it did not fit. I need specifically a 32mm x 90mm mount with a matching 32mm bottom clamp

I cannot deviate from this. Let me know if you have that EXACT size for a CR80/85 Engine.

Thanks Shaun

[Derek Lodato]

I posted this on the WTB classifieds but since you are my 80/85cc guys I figured I’d ask. I need a 32mm x 90mm engine mount for my CR85.

I have a 2011 GP10 32mm Shifter Chassis.

If you have an extra one to sell please PM me…. Thanks

[Derek Lodato]

Interested.. I Private Messaged you

[Derek Lodato]

For all of the 80/85 guys I have a question I have not found the answer to yet:

Which pipe do you prefer and why?

RLV TC4

RLV TC8

I will be running at a mid sized track. I’m looking for a good amount of bottom to get out of tight corners but I also want the mid and some high .. for straights and sweeping turns.

I am from Florida so my main tracks are Anderson Race Park and Ocala Grand Prix

Also, what brand and size silencer is best. I am looking at the Alden A3 and M4 but not sure size etc.

Thanks everybody!

Derek

[Derek Lodato]

I have an angled RLV TC4 pipe if you are interested

text me at 813-504-0192 or email me at dlodato7@yahoo.com

 

[Derek Lodato]

Check your inbox …sent you an email

Thx

[Derek Lodato]

@ Bill … Thanks…That is the most descriptive response I have heard to date! I greatly appreciate it

I definitely want to work on this but most likely I’ll shadow someone during my first round

Check your inbox

Thanks again Bill

[Derek Lodato]

@ Shaun – This is a great question. I purchased a New Alden CR85 Engine with only break in time on it. I attempted to get a hold of Harry Alden but I heard he isn’t easy to get a hold of these days. My question to him was going to be “How often do I need to change out the Top End and Bottom End?

I have heard many opinions on this. The engine I bought is said to put out 29hp so my guess is I will have to change out top end quite often but the seller said I should be able to get 8-10 hours on it. I have heard as low as 3-4. Still I am not certain. Anyone out there experienced with 80/85cc want to shed some light on this question for me?

Is there a sudden drop in power as a early warning sign or should I just remove the head to look for signs there after 3-4 hours of run time?

It would be MUCH appreciated. Also, any good builders out there you recommend to perform the engine work?

I have been told that I could learn to do the top end myself – is it super difficult?

Thanks again,

Derek

[Derek Lodato]

Check your inbox

[Derek Lodato]

Check your inbox…. text me when you get this

[Derek Lodato]

Thanks Gary… I appreciate your input

[Derek Lodato]

@ Gary. Thanks for your input. I’m located in Florida and will be running a CR85 package for Sprint only.

I plan on running a K&N style air filter. I believe the straights are about 600 ft at my main track.

My engine is modified by Alden Engines. When I change the top end would I need a special heavy duty top end kit or could I simply replace it with a top end kit from Honda OEM?

Thanks Gary

[Derek Lodato]

Well guys… I picked up a New CR85 package by Alden Engines so I’m going all in with this shifter package. There are good arguments between going 125 first and possibly using a restrictor plate going Rotax etc etc etc. I have experience with the Rotax and DD2 already. I want shifter seat time now only

I’ve heard from many others that 80cc is fast and the way to go as long as you can get one for a great deal. Well I got a great deal on mine at a fraction of what a 125cc Stock Moto cost so looking to get some good seat time in with it. Maintenance may be close to the same who knows but start up cost was way lower.

My GP10 isn’t getting much response so I’m keeping it

All 80cc guys check out the new topic CR80/85 Tech Talk. I welcome all your advice on setup and tuning or hit me up at dlodato7@yahoo.com or text at 813-504-0192

Let the Shifting Begin!

[Derek Lodato]

@ Tyson … I am scaling back .. the GP10 Shifter Chassis is more than I need right now. I am looking for a lower priced chassis to practice with. Possible upgrade later. I have a tendency to try to buy higher caliber stuff before I need to. Sometimes this gets me in trouble. I have been seeking an 80cc engine as well just to keep costs lower. I am simply looking to practice and gain experience with shifters without the higher costs at his time.

 

[Derek Lodato]

Thank guys

[Derek Lodato]

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[Derek Lodato]

@ Bob… Well it’s not exactly true. Although funny how you put it. I am actually looking for a slightly modified 80cc say to 25hp. If going to 125 I’d choose a Stock Moto ’99 CR125

I am not interested in driving just for fun. For me it is about learning the skill of competitive karting and through seat time getting to a level of confidence, skill and speed to enter races. I’ve never been one to enter a race unless I feel I can win or come dang close.

I’m ok with using an 80cc engine package just to learn knowing that I won’t get much out of it when I sell… as long as I don’t have to spend much to get it on the track initially. $4000 is not an option.. heck I’d be ok with $1500 but not much more for the 80cc package

I’m looking for the best bang for my buck while still getting decent performance while I’m in the learning stages of the shifter world. I know a lot about these karts but not a lot of experience first hand driving or tuning one. What I also don’t know first hand is what type of money is involved in maintaining one of these engines. Some say it’s a nightmare… others say hogwash … everyone is different and drivings styles vary across the board. This is most likely why answers are so broad and different regarding 80cc, Stock Moto and KZ. Driving styles and proper maintenance are big variables

With all of that said you are right .. the final decision is mine

Thanks to everyone for your input

[Derek Lodato]

Thanks for feedback…

@Bob… Well… I have been on the forums for a while now and appreciate the feedback but it’s been a process to figure out the way to go. Everyone has their opinion on different packages whether it be Stock Moto or KZ etc.

I have been hearing that 80cc may be an even better option as long as I understand resell value won’t be much.

When I said I just want to drive … this was a little out of frustration. It seems as if opinions on what motor to use is ENDLESS.  Although some of the feedback is helpful it’s mass confusion. I was just going to gear it down pick up an 80cc and get some shifter track time in. I was hoping it would be more simple but I believe I opened up yet another can of worms here

[Derek Lodato]

@ Robert … My area of interest is Sprint only .. Thanks for your feedback

@ Brian Degulis… I would tend to agree with you

In light of the power subject… What do you guys think about the Aixro Wankel XR50 engine?

I’ve see YouTube videos of it just grabbing the road catching ICC and Stock Moto with ease on the straights and staying with them pretty well through the corners

 

[Derek Lodato]

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[Derek Lodato]

@ Brian Degulis …Your response was very enlightening

It also brings to mind. Why hasn’t America stepped up to produce their own purpose built shifter kart engines?

Sure Stock motos are good.. .KZ looks to be the F1 of karting but all I hear from various people are costs are higher with KZ, Maxter is crap TM is the way to go. ICC’s blow up maintenance cost is high etc etc

All this talk is making me want to buy an Easykart shifter or something way different than the norm. Seems that this battle between moto and icc has been going on forever. Sure I am new to OWNING a shifter but not being around the topics that have been brewing since the 90’s.

ICC vs Moto is a battle that would only will be put to rest by a new different dominant power plant hitting the scene.

Now we have the mighty 4-stroke. Personally I’m not a fan but they will continue to grow. I think we’ll miss a great opportunity to come up with something reliable, powerful and with ongoing design upgrades. But no… we’ll just grab another made for motocross engine and slap it on a kart. That thing looks hideous on a kart. Big bulky hunk of metal that doesn’t belong on a kart.

Another question, since there are SO many karting enthusiast and racers, why should karting be different than any other motorsport? Why not continue to develop a good power package with reliability and cost effectiveness. We need a purpose built kart engine.

Some will say we already have that with the ICC/KZ engine but then there’s the cost and maintenance issue again and then we are in another continuing never ending discussion.

Let’s think outside the box…. I’d like to see a powerful 2-stroke powerplant purpose built kart motor in which parts are affordable. Perhaps American Made this time to keep costs down. Perhaps an ICC/KZ american made engine with parts availability in the states so you don’t have to spend so much on maintenance.

Yep I know… Keep dreamin right?

[Derek Lodato]

@ Greg Wright… by no means was I too serious not to laugh at your response. I appreciate you input for certain.. Thanks. This thread is only to make drivers aware of some of the common karting injuries. This is not to worry a newbie but through feedback from experienced drivers who’ve been there done that….it’ll help drivers focus on the right type of safety apparel helping to prevent or greatly minimize injuries.

There has been some good comments surrounding proper seat size and proper rib vest fit to help reduce injury. These types of discussions will only benefit  new shifter drivers.

Thanks again to everyone for your feedback. This is great info … appreciate it.

Have a great Labor Day Weekend guys!

[Derek Lodato]

Thanks Greg…

But we are looking for more serious answers here in order to help improve the sport. Also for awareness of beginner/novice drivers… your feedback could help a new driver/experienced driver drive as fast as possible while maximizing their safety intelligence/awareness.

[Derek Lodato]

Thanks everyone for your feedback.

Paul Makarucha… could you specifically let me know what on your body breaks the most? Top 5 please .. jk LOL

Well now that we are on topic… lets open it up. See my next topic

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