[Andy Seesemann]

AKNCMULCH,

First off, you may want to fix your profile with your actual name, or the moderator may admonish you.

You cannot use MG reds, and you probably won’t find any used tires on this site due to your rim size.  Based on the tire sizes you gave, you have 6 inch diameter rims, which are very rare.

Vega is about the only manufacturer that makes a 6 inch tire any more.

Contact TS Racing in Florida as they may be about the only ones that can help you.   http://www.tsracing.com

 

Andy

 

[Andy Seesemann]

Thats a good looking kart, Rob!

 

[Andy Seesemann]

Bump.  Prices reduced.

[Andy Seesemann]

Godspeed, Jerry.

 

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[Andy Seesemann]

Hey Mike,

Lets go another direction.

Where are you located and what main jet are you using?

Andy

[Andy Seesemann]

http://www.kartsportna.com/dealers/

Andy

[Andy Seesemann]

Direct is fine.

Andy

[Andy Seesemann]

Hey Greg,

We have found that 118-128 is the range that you will need in most cases.

Regards,

Andy

[Andy Seesemann]

2 of these brand new in the box chassis left.

$2250 OBO.

Andy

[Andy Seesemann]

Trace,

I apologize that it took me a day longer than normal to respond to your email. I came home sick from the World Finals and needed a few days rest.

Did you not receive my response on Friday?

BTW, thanks for responding, Roman. Your response is correct. Many of the fuel hose sold in the US is 1/4″ or larger, while the European fuel hose is 6mm. Fuel hose from Rotax, Freeline, OTK, etc all fits the T-fitting tighter.

Regards,

Andy

[Andy Seesemann]

One contributing factor has been the reduction in age over the years for the Sr. classes and the constant push for kids to move up in class after a year.

Senior used to be Senior. Most Sr. competitors were over 18 “back in the day”.

Sr. nowadays means 14 1/2, with an average age of 16-17.

Most boys gain 30+ pounds between 14 and 18. If Sr. classes were 18+, I bet the weights would be right on.

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[Andy Seesemann]

Price reduced to $2500 OBO. Call for best deal.

Andy

[Andy Seesemann]

You left out one important piece of information, Mike.

You were involved with all of those defunct series as a partner in one way or another.

You aren’t involved in the US Open in any way.

Look forward, not backward.

 

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[Andy Seesemann]

Hey Steve,

Now, you know that information, since you are a 4 cycle engine builder, right?

I know it was not your goal, but in some ways, your question (and the answer to it which you know, they don’t use 4 stroke engines on racing karts for the most part, only concession karts) helps to prove my point.   Obviously Swiss Auto, Vampire, Biland, etc all have high horsepower 4 cycle engines, but they are not used an any real quantities.

The CIK has supported 2 cycle karting for its entire existence, so there aren’t any 4 cycle engine tech specs on their site.  But, some  years ago, someone decided to go their own way and go away from the worldwide 2 cycle rules set and put a 4 cycle engine on a kart.  (good thing, since building those motors is your business).  So, even though there was a Worldwide body, with a Worldwide set of rules, someone decided to go their own way.

Wait?  Isn’t that Worldwide set of rules what was wanted?

Oddly enough, 10?  15? years ago the CIK put out a tender for a 4 cycle “World Formula” engine.  They thought that future was going to 4 cycles, so they thought that they would be ahead of the curve to actually create a Worldwide spec.  Remember that?  How many companies produced one per that spec?  One.  Briggs and Stratton, right here in the US.  When that happened, all the US sanctioning bodies kicked the CIK to the curb and created their own rules packages.  Here we go again…..

You might think that I am against this individualism and only want CIK rules followed.  If you do, you are mistaken.  I was simply pointing out that people ask for what already exists.  They just don’t like it when they don’t own something that falls within the guidelines.  If they really wanted a Worldwide spec set of rules, simply follow the existing programs.  We don’t need to add any more.  If you want to run tube bumpers, 4 cycle engines, open tires, so be it.  Go to your local track and go drive and enjoy yourself.  Just don’t blame the track a few hours away from being elitist or discriminatory when they actually follow a set of rules that exist beyond their own property.

Its what you just asked for……

A

 

 

[Andy Seesemann]

Uh, we do have that.

Its called the CIK.  www.cikfia.com

Its the karting arm of the FIA.  Worldwide.  Exactly what you asked for.

Unfortunately, Americans have the attitude that we don’t want Europeans dictating our rules to us.  Odd, since in sprint karting, over 90% of the equipment we use comes from Europe.

How about this one?  www.rotax-kart.com

Another worldwide rules set, down the to the tires and motor specs.

Oh wait, you don’t like that one either.

Two examples of exactly what you state you want, but really don’t want.

What you really are asking for is “…If we only had an organization that could govern a set of rules for all the tracks, some kind of world karting organization, we could use the same equipment everywhere….”  “as long its exactly what I have sitting in my garage.”

 

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[Andy Seesemann]

Google search came up with this:

 

http://www.minicassia.com/news/article_fb5fd450-138b-11e4-a08c-001a4bcf6878.html

 

 

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[Andy Seesemann]

Chad,

Funny you should mention him, Emerson stopped by my shop yesterday.

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[Andy Seesemann]

Daniel,

The only numbers that really matter to you are the last two in the sequence and the serial numbers on the chassis.

The first two numbers are the application number to the CIK. Your chassis is the 56th application accepted and item homologated during that period. The other chassis is the 42nd, but of a different period. Chassis, bodywork and brakes are all homologated at the same time, so those items are intermingled in the app numbers. The center letters are the item in question. FR = brakes, CA = bodywork and CH = chassis. You will find that many items from manufacturers are applied for at once, so their numbers are in sequence, regardless of the item. See the 2006-2011 homologation list on the link below.

http://www.cikfia.com/fileadmin/content/REGULATIONS/Homologations/Homologated%20Equipment/WEB_Prolong-materiel-2012.pdf

The chassis you are looking at falls within this list. Please note that those apps were extended until 2017. This means that chassis type and design is legal to be made until then. That chassis could have been made as early as 2006, and as late as yesterday. The serial number is the key to obtaining that answer.

Your chassis is from the list below.

http://www.cikfia.com/fileadmin/content/REGULATIONS/Homologations/Homologated%20Equipment/2014/Prolong-materiel-2015_-_WEB.pdf

It could have been built as early as 2009 or as late as the week before you bought it. The serial number is the key to that answer as well.

So, it is possible that your chassis was actually built after his even though you say that his is “newer”. Newer in karting is probably best represented in how many uses rather than the year it was manufactured.

To illustrate the point, one of my favorite chassis of all time is a birel M32, with an 08 homologation. This chassis design is over 8 years old since the homologation was from 06-08, but if someone had a brand new one, I wouldn’t hesitate to grab it, regardless of the year of manufacture.

Bottom line, inspect the chassis, check for flattened tubes and straightness and decide if the price is worth it. All the numbers and codes don’t really mean much in the grand scheme of things.

I hope that I answered more questions than I caused.

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[Andy Seesemann]

Hey Ted.

 

I have run a series or two and have experienced the type of email that you have presented. While I’m sure that your reasoning was well thought out and presented in the proper tone, I’m fairly certain that making the changes to appeal to a perceived wider audience would not result in any more entries.

In my experience, if people want to race, they will find a way to bring a legal package to the track per the stated rules package.  If they don’t,  they won’t.  I have been through the “…if you just, …if the spec wasn’t…if the rules were relaxed… if only I could just….if I didn’t have to….”‘,, ” I would race….” Road many times, and in the end, it never results in any more entries when the rules are relaxed.

If a bumper that has been standard on chassis for 5 years, or a spec tire that is within 10% of the price of all other tires on the market is keeping someone from racing,if you remove those perceived barriers, something else will pop up to make it too difficult to race for those who use those reasons to not show up.

Regards,

Andy

[Andy Seesemann]

That is correct, Larry.

Troy and his staff at Adams Motorsports Park have decided to have practice on Friday until 9pm for this event. Thank you very much, Troy, Timel, Joanna, Nick and Calvina.

See you there!

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[Andy Seesemann]

Rod,

Everyone is on a budget.  Some just have more zeroes.

YLC tires are .3-.5 faster depending on the track.  As you know, F100 focusses on the budget minded racer, or the newbie.  If you are a newbie who is 1.5 sec off the pace, running the YKC is a cheaper way to get seat time while trying to become more competitive.  Many use that tire until they feel they are at a competitive level which warrants purchasing the faster tire.

YKC tires have not been manufactured in almost 4 years, but there are still cases of them in the Bridgestone warehouse in SoCal.  We (dealers) have access to them are are able to sell them at $150/set instead of the $200+/set for the YLC.

For some, the cost savings is worth running the slower tire.  For others, its not worth it.

Pick the side of the fence you want to be on and go have fun!

 

Andy

Full Throttle Karting

Orange, CA

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