[michael smith]

still looking

[michael smith]

great product. i use it for my kart with a 1.5lb lithium polymer battery and i get a lot of comments about it. its so easy to use. i start my kart myself in the pits and just roll it off to the side

[michael smith]

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[michael smith]

maybe pay him a visit if he is close?

[michael smith]

let me update this for anyone reading in the future. there is a reason why they say dont change more than one thing at all.

it turns out the “freeness” was all from moving the rod ends to the outer holes on the spindles. i tried different caster/camber settings, and doing the same “crank the steering wheel all the way and push” test. it still rolled relatively free, even with max caster, and STILL with the inside wheel not lifting.

[michael smith]

larry , good point. i guess its a game of testing to find the best setting

[michael smith]

@steve

great point. i did the test because every kart setup document ive ever seen, to illustrate the need to lift the inside rear wheel, asks the reader to turn their wheel full lock and try to steer the kart. it also asks the reader to notice how difficult this is to do BECAUSE BOTH REAR WHEELS ARE ON THE GROUND

now im wondering if the freeness of a kart derives more from the front of the kart than from the rear. i mean- even if both rear wheels are on the ground, they are pointing the same direction. if the front wheels are pointing in two different directions wouldnt this cause a bigger binding effect than the rear wheels?

but i agree with your point. at full lock the wheels are going different ways and it wont move. what i find very interesting is that on the track even though full lock is not in play, it still rolls free-er with less ackerman and caster.

[michael smith]

Tj, i tried it out this weekend and its the freeest the kart has ever been. I am a very tall guy so maybe thats why i could get away with it but its definitely less bound up around corners

[michael smith]

You can save time by putting the asking price in the ad.

[michael smith]

Prefer xl-xxl

Thanks

[michael smith]

i dont quite understand how that correlates to caster / ackerman setting and how free the kart is.

maybe you can expound?

[michael smith]

Ok, thats part of what I’m trying to figure out. The first rule of karting is the inside rear must lift to turn so what i cant figure out why would caster make the kart turn less when the inside wheel is clearly off the ground, and how with the inside wheel still on the ground with less caster, the kart rolls freely.

[michael smith]

still looking for seat.

[michael smith]

thanks gary.
thats something i just need to test and see.

[michael smith]

Thanks cory. Great info.

Another related question i have for all is can the ackerman setting have an effect on the freeness of a kart.

Ie, going to the inner holes provides more toe out on cornering. I know that excessive toe out or toe in on the straight leads to loss of speed. Can the same thing be happening in the corners?

[michael smith]

also need 32mm x 50mm axle bearing HANGERS

large – xxl ribtect or deepseat

[michael smith]

gary, would you mind sharing how you got to 153?

my kart , 32/32/50 with a clone is 168. i would love to get it to 153 if possible.

[michael smith]

Thanks tj . I AM taking really low hp stuff.

I did an interesting test today. I took out timing from a clone to take out some power and see what the data looked like. It was very interesting.

Eg. Corner entry speed is 30 mph. So ,brake to 30 mph, turn, and then get on the gas. It was interesting to notice that, even with foot flat on the gas pedal, as long as the steering wheel was turned it would not accelerate . It just kept the same speed through the corner even with the throttle all the way open.

It was definitely an eye opener.

[michael smith]

Great information guys. Thanks.

Is there a way to tell when it might be time to try a harder tire?

I guess going around turns full throttle is one way. any others?

[michael smith]

thanks for the feedback.
do you have a theory on why it was faster with the less grippy tire?

thanks

[michael smith]

Mychron with data Key are sold!

Please do not send payment if i sent you my Paypal.its already paid for and shipping out today

[michael smith]

Btw, comes with 3 leads

Rpm
Cht
Infrared.

If the cht is not needed, price is 260 shipped

[michael smith]

Thank you guys, the motor was sold today for the accessories, and for spares.

[michael smith]

Word just came down the mountain that the engine will a full rebuild so I’m junking it.

Anyone want to make an offer on the accessories and other parts?

Mount
Carb
Exhaust
Radiator
J arm
Rod
Clutch lever
Ignition etc

Thanks

[michael smith]

Trade pending for a leopard.will update if/when it goes through

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