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April 24, 2014 at 2:56 pm #26255tony zambosParticipant
Try pulling the carb off and dump the fuel out. Then blow into the fuel line with the carb straight up. Now turn the carb over and try blowing again. It should be harder to blow into the carb when it’s upside down because the floats are pressing the needle valve closed. Check the valve seat is screwed in all the way and the floats read “alto” when they there sitting in the bowl. The other method of checking the floats is to shake the carb and you should hear them rattle.
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April 24, 2014 at 3:50 pm #26260tony zambosParticipant
Know you mentioned you took out both jets, but did you check it the emulsion tube for the idle jet was in?
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April 24, 2014 at 4:48 pm #26264MattParticipant
We did a pretty thorough check of the floats. They do a good job of stopping fuel flow when they are installed upside down, they rattle when you shake it when installed properly. We tried adjusting the center tab on the pivoting arms to have them shut off the fuel earlier. With the motor running, fuel pouring out of the indicated port, we took the carb off, bowl off the bottom w/o tipping it. Fuel level was about half way up the bowl, we were expecting that if the float is not shutting off the flow properly the bowl would be super full.
We did not check the emulsion tube, don’t know what you’re describing. All we did was unscrew the two jets, we did not take anything else out.
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April 24, 2014 at 5:02 pm #26266Mike BrayParticipant
This is probably a dumb question but how’s the venting? Specifically the little hose that loops from one side to the other and has a section cut out for a vent.
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April 24, 2014 at 5:36 pm #26269MattParticipant
This is probably a dumb question but how’s the venting? Specifically the little hose that loops from one side to the other and has a section cut out for a vent.
Winner winner chicken dinner. I looked at that hose and thought it was damaged, threw it out, put on one that was intact. So just now sliced a section out of it w/ a razor, started it up and no more fuel leak.
Thank you very much.
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April 24, 2014 at 7:29 pm #26278Mike BrayParticipant
There’s a reason I knew to ask that…………..
All I’m going to say:)
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April 26, 2014 at 9:46 am #26341Rod ClinardParticipant
I too have done the exact same thing.. lol
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June 28, 2014 at 12:33 pm #29537TJ FlanaganParticipant
Bringing this one back from the dead, I have the same problem our friend Matt had. My solution isn’t his though, I’ve already got the hole-y hose. I’ve pulled the carb apart and everything is and blows clean.
Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
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Since this, I’ve gotten the motor to fire up, but now the fuel just comes shooting out every orfice possible on the carb. Including the hole-y hose. I’ve got to have some type of vacuum issue somewhere, right?
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June 28, 2014 at 6:00 pm #29554MattParticipant
I am by no means an expert w/ these things, but by virtue of being low on the learning curve, I have been inside my son’s carb a few times recently.
Have you checked that the floats are shutting the fuel flow off? If the needle is not seating correctly perhaps the pump is just flooding fuel everywhere? If you take the fuel tank vent hose and blow into it, what happens? Does it get really hard to blow into or can you make fuel puke out? The floats should close the needle which would then make it hard to blow in the vent tube.
Curious what others have to offer.
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June 28, 2014 at 9:51 pm #29558tony zambosParticipant
Pull the carb and empty out the fuel. Put a peice of hose on the fuel inlet and blow into it. Air should flow. Now, turn the carb up-side-down. You shouldn’t be able to blow into the carb if the needle valve is workiing. Make sure the floats are at the proper height and the floats are not filling up with fuel and sinking.
Check that the floats are in the proper way. With no fuel in the carb, shake the carb up and down. You should be able to hear the floats rattle. -
June 29, 2014 at 7:58 am #29567Steen CarstensenParticipant
Check your needle valve. If you used carb cleaner with the needle valve in place, it will be ruined. ALWAYS remove the needle valve before using carb cleaner.
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April 24, 2014 at 5:35 pm #26268tony zambosParticipant
Matt,
This a link to John Savage’s article on carb prep. Page 4 has a diagram of the emulsion tube.
http://www.rotaxjetting.com/PDFs/Documents/The%20Preparation%20&%20Jetting%20of%20the%20Rotax%20Carb.pdfIs there any fuel inside the floats?
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