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David Cole
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 Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:54 am Post subject: WKA Trustee Discussion |
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Regarding the WKA post by Mellisa Stevens, it has been removed as the account is deemed to be an alias.
Regarding the topic, EKN is currently working to find out the facts and will publish our findings in the near future.
Thank you.
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Doug Fleming
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Harraka 
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Bernie Adamson
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Well since my name is not an alias can i re-post it ?
David with all due respect this has been ongoing for a number of years and apparently is now coming to a head.
Both you and Rob claim that EKN is impartial, so why not allow a public debate on the subject matter, from what "Melissa" wrote, from a law standpoint, nothing she/he wrote was anything but factual.
I await your decision
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Bob Vehring
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:11 am Post subject: |
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At this time I have seen nothing but one questionable post from one questionable source which included a large amount of personal POV.
Until some official statements are made we have nothing to discuss other then some ones personal opinion, which apparently they lack the guts to back up with a real name
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David Cole
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Paul Hill
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Sorry Bob but I have it on very good authority that all that was said about the suspensions IS true.
There WILL be further action from the discredited trustees. This is not going to go away quietly any time soon. David and Rob can hide behind whatever excuse they want to squash the discussions here but the facts will remain the same.
Mr Pres and Mr Buffamonte are WAY out of line........
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Keith Buffo
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I can’t speak to all the backroom politics at WKA, but I can tell you that Don Guilbeault is my road racing vendor, the trustee I voted for, and a good friend... and all for very good reasons. The man loves karting. He has been a long time sponsor of local and national classes, has been a dedicated family racer for years, and works hard to build the sport one racer at a time. He volunteered his time to run for trustee, members elected him, he voted how he saw fit, and now he can’t even race?! Craziness.
In the upper levels of WKA (trustees included), there seems to be way more time and energy spent on internal melodrama than on providing better racing and services for members/customers. My view from the pits, it looks like a struggle for power and money that exist only in a few people’s fantasies.
But in the real world, I can tell you if this crap is allowed to stand how it will effect this one karter...
- I lose one of closest racing buddies.
- I lose my closest competitor in my main classes.
- I lose my transportation to my series races...
- ...thus I lose all the money I’ve invested so far this season in running for points.
- My competitors lose at least two of the top five competitors in four classes.
- Me and my series lose its only significant vendor.
- My series loses the sponsor of three classes (unless they keep his money).
- Me and my region lose its elected trustee and voice at WKA.
Booting people who have time and again proven their commitment to the sport, at and away from the track, with their time and their money speaks volumes... what it says exactly, I don’t know, but it’s clearly nothing good for the racer.
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Rob Howden
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Bernie Adamson wrote: | Well since my name is not an alias can i re-post it ?
David with all due respect this has been ongoing for a number of years and apparently is now coming to a head.
Both you and Rob claim that EKN is impartial, so why not allow a public debate on the subject matter, from what "Melissa" wrote, from a law standpoint, nothing she/he wrote was anything but factual.
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Bernie...please call me @ 519-624-2003
Ahead of your call, I will state this. The initial post came from an alias, which we don't allow, so it was removed. I expect that the post included some factual information, but also a great deal of opinion and accusation, right or wrong. Seeing as you are not part of the WKA board, I highly doubt that you can confirm that this was entirely 'factual'. As such, it must be taken simply as one personal belief. As additional information surfaces, we will learn more. Please don't jump to conclusions until this information become public.
If you would like to add your own opinion, you are free to do so, but in keeping with our guidelines, please steer clear of any personal attacks. This is obviously a critical time for the WKA and the membership will need to speak up for their organization, but we will certainly not allow any of its detractors to capitalize on this situation for their own personal gain.
My phone line is open for ANYONE who wishes to discuss this issue.
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Bernie Adamson
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Rob
will happily call you after lunch today.
Ahead of my call to you, I will state this. 
The initial post came from an alias, and i have no problem with you taking it down. As i have said on my own forum man up with your real name or wander off and prosper !
In my opinion, it appears that a certain person who went on a certain radio show not very long ago wasn't a million miles from the truth...but that could also be construed as speculation on my part
Call you soon
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Bernie Adamson
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Just a quick thought for you to ponder on, how can a statement be made that the "new trustee's will be inplace in 7 to 10 days" when the old ones have 30 days to appeal?
Call you soon
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Tim Pappas
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Ray Mcik
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:27 am Post subject: 6 Trustees of Wka Removed |
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Reposted from my original thread that was titled 6 Trustees of Wka Removed
These trustees were voted in by the membership and now have been removed by the President of WKA WHY?
I do know Steve Rumsey personally and will vouch for his integrity and devotion to Karting , I cannot understand why these members were removed, Even though i am not a member of WKA , i still support the people who step up the help this organization .
I would want to know why this was done without the memberships approval or knowledge till after the fact....
Also why do corner workers and other staff have to sign a legal document stating they will not discuss WKA business , this strikes of secrecy . what benefit is there to having this...
Signed Ray Mckibben
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Jeff Lund
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| This opinion comes from what I've read in the last 5 minutes, so from the outside looking in. Removing trustees does seem too extreme. Couldn't Dresang or other trustees just veto the attempts of the now suspended trustees? A move like that will put a lot of attention on the internal politics of the WKA. |
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Derek White
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| Bernie Adamson wrote: | Just a quick thought for you to ponder on, how can a statement be made that the "new trustee's will be inplace in 7 to 10 days" when the old ones have 30 days to appeal?
Call you soon |
Even better than that:
"President Dresang has advised them of their suspensions and their right to appeal to the Board of Trustees"
I'm sure their replacements and the guy they were allegedly conspiring to remove will give them a fair trial
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Mike Burrell
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S&*%!!! I just booked my room for Road America today, and took the "advanced purchase" cheaper option...
Well, I guess I'll go anyway, should be "interesting" to say the least...
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