Schumacher

joseph hollinger · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:52 am Post subject: Schumacher

So now that Michael is under a lot of fire in the press, what does everyone think?
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Chris Livengood · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:57 am Post subject:

No option for being as competitive or better than Nico? The poll is inherently car biased.
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joseph hollinger · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:00 am Post subject:

Work with what you've got Smile

. Nico seems to be doing fairly well.
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Chris Livengood · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:06 am Post subject:

The poll has little relation to the current press buzz but I guess it's a legitimate question outside of that context.
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chad garofalo · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:09 pm Post subject:

The guy has not raced in 3 years. The cars are COMPLETELY different. I bet anyone here would fall off a bit if they stopped racing and went to a foreign kart after 3 years. Remember, he could not test in the off season. He'll be as competitive as his car allows. He will surpass Niko IMHO. And I think Niko is an underated driver.

Matt McCauley · Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 422

people expect that cuz he is a 7 time world champion he will kick everyones ass. First off michael is my favorite driver, but the reason he was successful at ferrari was because he formed the team there. without michael ferrari wouldnt have done what they have in the last decade. granted the car was fast and ****, michael made it get there after many years of building. now after 3 years of basically no competitive racing its hard to adjust immediately. look at kimi in rally, he is a great driver and it is taking him time. you can't rush greatness, michael will get there when its time. granted nico is fast, i think the car looks pretty good, not the best in the field though. if you see michael return like the old michael and 10 seconds up after the first lap, thats going to be next year if any time. think back to the time when michael was at benneton, after winning the world championship then it took 5 years before he won the championship again and granted that ferrari only finished 3rd the year before he got there they weren't capable of winning a championship since the 80s until michael came. so everyone who is putting so much pressure and expecting so much, sit back, get some popcorn its going to be a good show the next couple years. keep in mind supernats last year, no matter if you are the master karter, seat time and current experience always play a big part, same with f1

Dave Stevens · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:01 pm Post subject:

The Chin is ready to become the next Jacques Villeneuve. I can understand the desire to return but he's been hurt and is an older man in a young man's game. The fact he's doing as well as he is at his age is a testament to how good he is/was. I think this deal was as much about selling Mercedes with a German supert eam as it was him taking another stab at an 8th WDC.
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Bob Ogden · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:07 pm Post subject:

First, let's understand I've not been a Michael fan over the years. At this point, though, I think he needs to be given a little leeway since he's been out of F1 for three years.
These cars evolve a generation over the course of a season. The car Mercedes will be running at the end of the year will have very little in common, technically, with the car today.
Let's look at history. Shumi joined Ross Brawn at Benneton when the car absolutely sucked. Next thing you know, it's the car to beat.
Ferrari, same thing.
Now, whether or not he becomes an eight time world champion I'll wager that his presence at Mercedes will put them ahead by a year or two in the development curve, and possibly make him Nico's best friend.

Tim Doll · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject:

While Schuey has been a little underwelming so far, it's way to early to make final judgement. In addition to the stupid no-testing rules, none of the races this year have been 'normal'. The first race in the desert no one really knew what strategy would work, and the rest have had perods of rain that made tire strategy critical - a lap difference in switching rain to dry or visa-versa worth several positions. It's also obvious that Schuey is less than happy with the balance of the car.

I'd give him to at least mid season before making a meaningful accessment.

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Larry Andrews · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:49 pm Post subject:

"the Chin" - nice. Melissa always says 'hello ladies' when they show him on TV.

The thing that's been the most interesting to me is how he winds up dicing with guys like Algersuari and Petrov. It's almost like he's been retained to teach the new kids a thing or two. Probably a good thing...

I've been around racing long enough to know that stuff changes. <shrug> Maybe he'll win the last six races and maybe he'll stay midpack. Does it really matter?

I know this much, I'll be playing with my new (to me) kart this weekend.

joseph hollinger · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:53 am Post subject:

Yo Larry, what did you get?

I have to admit that I find myself pulling for Schumacher. Now that he's the underdog. When he drove for Ferrari, I spent all my time hoping his motor would break.
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Barry Hastings · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject:

Schumacher needs testing at a home track. give him 20 laps at the Ferrari test track and he would have the car sorted. needs a constant to test against. New car, new type of car fairly new tracks. I am sure its difficult to get truly comfortable with all those variables. It would be like getting a new kart, and then going to a new track to test it at. Get new kart go to local track to shake it down and get a feel for it. Nice and comfortable at home track, head to new track. Only have to learn the track not the car too.

If you can remember the year he broke his leg and Eddie Ervine was left to keep the Ferrari development on pace, the car started to lag down the field. Schumacher gets caught going out to play soccer and Ferrari bosses figure if he can go play soccer, he can drive the car. They put him back in the car testing, he figures out what is wrong with the current car, (want to say the difuser moving or something) they fix it and then they go to Malysia and the Ferrari is back on top... Of coarse Schumacher is ordered to let Eddie Ervine in front and block Mika from getting close to Eddie Ervine. Put on a blocking clinic, never weaved but every turn chose a different point to brake causeing Mika to have NO clue what or when he was going to do next. But when it was time for the in lap, on softer tires over 2 seconds a lap faster than Eddie or Mika could do.

Tim Doll · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject:

joseph hollinger · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:55 pm Post subject:

Dave Robinson · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:34 am Post subject:

You dislike a guy who took advantage of everything afforded him by the rules he had to race under?????

As far as Ford giving Shuey a better motor, I bet he had nothing to say about it whatsoever.

Dave