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Paul Hutt
Joined: 26 Sep 2009 Posts: 388 Location: United States, Washington, Olympia
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: Forum not very active |
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I noticed that this forum has the least amount of hits of the most of the other forums.
Does that mean there are not many racing WF? In the Pacific NW the WF class has a lot of racers. So maybe it other parts of the country that are not into WF.
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Tim Koyen Advertiser

Joined: 26 Nov 2002 Posts: 1556
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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There is another forum that is strictly 4 cycles that has about a zillion members. That's where alot of the Briggs racers are.  _________________ High Quality American Made kart stands. Available direct to you or through one of our many dealers.
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Paul Hutt
Joined: 26 Sep 2009 Posts: 388 Location: United States, Washington, Olympia
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Yes. I go there twice a day. _________________ Race Grandpa
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David Cole Site Admin
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 8590 Location: United States, Michigan, Comstock Park
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Also, please remember we just started the Briggs and Stratton section just a few months ago, thus why numbers are smaller in this particular section. _________________ David Cole
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John Matthews
Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 1986 Location: United States, Michigan, Williamsburg
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Maybe it's because after the first few outings with a WF or well prepared Animal there just aren't as many questions to be answered.
In the tech talk section there are guys agonizing over what carb to run on their kid kart engines, and in the general section there are about a zillion different posts about why the clone is, or isn't the wave of the future.
The first WF I bought back in 2007 really impressed me (in fact it changed my whole focus in the karting business). But, other than building one Duffy winning motor and selling some stockers there's not a whole lot of action. I don't think it's because the motors aren't popular, I think it's just that the package pretty much works....
I know you've had a few challenges getting started Paul but I'm pretty sure once you get to know your engine and the guys you're racing with you'll be much more interested in chassis set-up and driving than the engine itself.
IMHO, the WF for a thousand bones is hands down the best value in karting power plants. It's got enough power for big sprint tracks, comes with two starters, a clutch, fuel pump, header, and pretty much will last a couple of seasons of club racing with minimum maintenance.
You'll notice the the WF section on Bob's isn't that active either....
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Craig Drabik
Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 72 Location: United States, New York, Buffalo
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| I second that John. I wish they'd come up with a motor that had TAG levels of power with WF reliability and ease of operation. |
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Bernie Lacotta
Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 166
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Craig Drabik"]I second that John. I wish they'd come up with a motor that had TAG levels of power with WF reliability and ease of operation.[/quote
I'm also a big fan of the WF. By far the best deal in karting. One thing to remember is that with TAG levels of power there is TAG levels of upkeep ( read = $ ). Be careful what you ask for ! _________________ I breathe ,therefore,I race |
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John Matthews
Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 1986 Location: United States, Michigan, Williamsburg
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Also, most drivers just aren't up to running TaG power w/sticky tires. Look at all the posts about busted ribs
Too many guys out there in TaG and shifter that ought to be running concession karts IMHO
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Chad Stapleton
Joined: 19 Jul 2001 Posts: 4403
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Craig Drabik wrote: | | I second that John. I wish they'd come up with a motor that had TAG levels of power with WF reliability and ease of operation. |
there is another vote for that 25-30 hp "305 WF" ...John _________________ Chad
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Frank Hein
Joined: 08 Oct 2009 Posts: 34 Location: United States, Massachusetts, Amherst
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: Forum not very active |
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I get kind of antsy when there hasn't been a WF post here after a few days. I've gone out on a limb with setting up a kart for a class that doesn't yet exist in New England. But after all the research I've done it just seems like a no-brainer.
4cycle.com has great information but there is a lot of "stuff" to sort through to find it. My strategy has been to post questions here that haven't been decisively answered at 4cycle.com and hope that the handful of experienced clear thinkers (who post here) will answer and build the data base here. When that doesn't work I PM the aforementioned.
The season hasn't started for New England, I haven't even put oil in the engine yet. I think I'll have lots more to post once I get revved up. Or, as JM said: | Quote: | Maybe it's because after the first few outings with a WF or well prepared Animal there just aren't as many questions to be answered.
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Then I can start asking question (that haven't already been answered) on the Chassis & Handling forum. _________________ Frank
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Mike Stroik
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 152 Location: United States, Wisconsin,
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Craig Drabik wrote:
I second that John. I wish they'd come up with a motor that had TAG levels of power with WF reliability and ease of operation.
Just get a Animal Limited Modified and run it in the WKA Road Racing series. We put $1600 into the engine and ran 1.5 seconds off the fastest tag time. Mind you the lap times were 2:27.00 and 2:29.00 respectively so with that long of a lap we were pretty close for much cheaper. We also hit 108 mph!
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Craig Drabik
Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 72 Location: United States, New York, Buffalo
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| I like the idea of a box stock motor to be honest. I feel like once you open the motor up to modification you're open to being beat by a better motor (or a guy with deeper pockets). |
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Bob Vehring
Joined: 23 Jul 2001 Posts: 1333 Location: United States, Wisconsin,
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| Craig Drabik wrote: | | I like the idea of a box stock motor to be honest. I feel like once you open the motor up to modification you're open to being beat by a better motor (or a guy with deeper pockets). |
Craig, while certainly that was the case in days of the flathead, If you study some of the finishing order of races today in any form the runs the Animal Blueprint classes, you'll see that the engines are so equal and many different builders engines are all capable of winning.
Both WKA and IKF did a good job of learning from past mistakes with the FH where rules really got out of control and basically became a mini open class. Today's rules simply focus on the areas where there are a possible tolerance variations. cams, head depth and pop up, and bring those all to a common standard. Our dyno shows this to be, by far the engines with the closest HP readings.
For those interested in higher HP read again Mikes post. You can check the times and speed at either Daytonas big track, MyLaps page or Badger has had Limited for years now. Times are right between HPV and Tag
If you have an Animal all it takes a different cam and carb and some porting. It will run all season with nothing more then oil changes. _________________ Bob Vehring
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Chris Hatch
Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 405
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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The W/F is a kick butt package. Best of luck starting the class in the NE. Get 2 other guys to race and you will quickly show everyone how much fun racing can be again. It's reliable, easy to race, and a complete package to race for $1000.
This is what the flat-head class dreamed of being. A stock (albeit some need for blueprint) class that provides close racing, without much needed to do to maintain. Keep it gas, premier clutch, stock header, and rev-limiter and have a blast.
Oh yea, and buy a 12 pack of beer to have with everyone your racing with afterward.
When Mike Schorn and I raced the W/F at the regional level, it was he and I in the class. The 10 yamaha guys hated us. Now there are no Yamahas on the regional level and 18 w/f's. Second largest class in there region...for several years. |
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Paul Hutt
Joined: 26 Sep 2009 Posts: 388 Location: United States, Washington, Olympia
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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OK I get it now.
I am 60 and it takes awhile for me to come to my senses.
GO World Formula _________________ Race Grandpa
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