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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject: * * * SFI Decertifies Impact Racing Products * * * Reply with quote

http://www.nationalspeedsportnews.com/node.php?id=2991

http://www.sfifoundation.com/


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow!

Here's the list if you want to know what's affected. And Simpson just named to the Drag Racing Hall of Fame, too!

3.2A Driver Suits (3.2A/1, 3.2A/3, 3.2A/5)
3.2A Driver Suits (3.2A/10, 3.2A/15, 3.2A/20)
3.3 Driver Accessories:
Arm Restraints
Shoes (3.3/5)
Drag Boots (3.3/15, 3.3/20)
Gloves (3.3/1, 3.3/5, 3.3/10, 3.3/15, 3.3/20)
Harness Pads
Helmet Supports
Hoods/Balaclavas
Socks
Underclothing

(the other categories are restraint systems).
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:57 pm    Post subject: Simpson Reply with quote

Bill Simpson, better known as Impact Racing currently-- this situation has been brewing for more than a year--now it has come to a head--this is what happens when you stay too long in Mexico relaxing and not tending to business in Indianapolis. Too bad--the man HAD quite a fantastic history--I bought alot of his stuff in the old days--another case when a great name gets taken to their knees. I have no sympathy.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott - This whole situation is sad.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fortunately for karters this doesn't really mean much since fire proof materials are not required.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every piece of safety equipment I have is IMPACT - heck, I have an IMPACT decal on the back of my truck.
I guess what bothers me is that apparently he tried to fool the system and put more $$ in his pocket. I'm assuming each SFI label cost him $X's. So, instead of paying whatever the fee was, he decides to manufacture his own. Doesn't make sense. From what I read, it's not that the stuff isn't up to snuff and didn't test out, it's that he tried to save a few bucks by manufacturing his own labels.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott Heavin wrote:
Every piece of safety equipment I have is IMPACT - heck, I have an IMPACT decal on the back of my truck.
I guess what bothers me is that apparently he tried to fool the system and put more $$ in his pocket. I'm assuming each SFI label cost him $X's. So, instead of paying whatever the fee was, he decides to manufacture his own. Doesn't make sense. From what I read, it's not that the stuff isn't up to snuff and didn't test out, it's that he tried to save a few bucks by manufacturing his own labels.



I think an SFI tag is $5 or $10 each. Can't remember exactly. The amount they saved by counterfeiting will end up being a small number compared to what this will end up costing them in the long run. Bad move!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bet would be that SFI is partially funded by the sale of the stickers. I don't have any Impact equipment (more of a Bell guy), but I think this could make all of their equipment suspect. The quality of copying in China is very impressive (we have even had counterfit phones sold in the US with our name on them), so you can't just look at a label and tell.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and counterfeit pieces on Hans devices Impact sold? I hope this story breaks in the NASCAR media soon--doubt that Curt Cavin or Robin Miller will "touch" the story in Indy car ranks. I bet there is more "impact" equipment out there in karting than all of NASCAR,Indy,NHRA, etc.combined. Again, I have no sympathy. Makes you want to rethink the Dale Earnhart, Sr. death again, doesn't it?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linda Willareth wrote:
and counterfeit pieces on Hans devices Impact sold? I hope this story breaks in the NASCAR media soon--doubt that Curt Cavin or Robin Miller will "touch" the story in Indy car ranks. I bet there is more "impact" equipment out there in karting than all of NASCAR,Indy,NHRA, etc.combined. Again, I have no sympathy. Makes you want to rethink the Dale Earnhart, Sr. death again, doesn't it?


Not sure about that. If I remember right, Dales seat belt problem was because he refused to remount the seat belt correctly. It was pulling at an angle throught the seat and Simpson tried to get him to change that. The webbing has its strength pulling straight.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about his helmets that are Snell rated? Can we trust those?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to Impact's site & it looks like there is going to be a court battle.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I received this email from Impact earlier today:

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Impact Racing would like to respond to the statement on March 26, 2010 by SFI regarding their intention to decertify all SFI labeled Impact Racing products. All SFI labeled products currently being sold by Impact Racing have current SFI certification and legally obtained labels. The safety of our products has in no way been compromised. The allegation from SFI is in relation to the actual SFI tag only. We suggest at this time to continue to use your equipment, which is safe and has been certified and do not have anyone replace your tags on your products.

On March 26, 2010 the attorneys representing Impact Racing filed an appeal. There is also a hearing in court on April 1, 2010. Impact Racing will keep all of our customers informed as details unfold.

We are not accepting returns or refunds on delivered products. We suggest at this time to wait until further notice until we learn more about the details and allegations.

A formal press release will follow shortly.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well maybe Impact would not have tried to save a bit on the tags if the general public along with Nascars help would not have thrown him (Bill Simpson) under the bus for Dale Srs death ! Sort of a big vicious circle isnt it ? I have always worn Simpson helmets and will continue to. I think the man has had more to do with safety innovations than anyone else ever will. We also dont know that it was him ! People in high positions do make decisions without the CEO being present ! Lets not see if we can get some bus tire tracks on him just yet ! Lets also see if he makes some sort of a public statement
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff S : 2 points:

I would be sure that Simpson's lawyers would not let him make a public statement .

I blame both NASCAR and Dale SR as both having Contributory negligence as to Dales Death . He should have been forced to go by safety guidelines ,but because he was who he was they both turnrned an eye on the situation
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