2 reasons the Rotax costs more in the US

Mike Young · Joined: 19 Jul 2001 Posts: 33

I am going to ask Chad to buy my motor

bird · Joined: 17 Jul 2001 Posts: 147

Know what happened when car manufacturers thought they could charge Brits larger markups? People started buying their cars in Holland and prices went down by a lot. If Rotax want the RMC to succeed they should stop treating their customers like idiots.

Mike Young · Joined: 19 Jul 2001 Posts: 33

THANK YOU Mary-Ann!

Chad Stapleton · Joined: 19 Jul 2001 Posts: 4403

Oscar,
Nope ! not a dealer, just a "fun" karter who doesnt want to see the costs escalate out of hand, or stand by and let people get "shafted" (even you Americans !)
I am supportive of the need for dealers to be profitable as we are all somewhat dependant upon them for our karting needs, and in this instance i think we established that it is Rotax themselves (or possibly their main US importer/distributor) who is fixing the price point, not the retail dealers.
A free competitive market is the basis of most civilised commercial operations, and this principle should apply here also.

Ray Knight · Joined: 31 Jul 2001 Posts: 15

There is an another choice now available to those who do not wish to subscribe to the RMC program.IAME's Parilla 125cc Leopard offers all of the features of the Rotax, equal power and has it's own charging system.Several areas in the country are considering a 125 class to run all of these type of engine together as other manufacturers bring in their packages.For club racers or regional series this will give karters a choice.The rules do not allow any mods to the Parilla but the engine can be serviced by anyone.

Chuck McCue · Joined: 17 Jul 2001 Posts: 2944

With the charging system, Tillotson Carburetor and legendary Parilla performance we have chosen to support the leopard. Our local track will add the class next series. Current testing shows that the Leopard can go around 30 hours between rebuilds.
The biggest difference between the Parilla and other recreational motors is that the power is strong from bottom to 15,000 + . We prefer the axle driven water pump since it helps warm the motor up in pre grid. This system works flawlessly as it has in FC & ICC for years.
Parts are available from multiple sources, anyone can rebuild and feel free to buy your motor from anyone in the world.

Oscar Aguilera · Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 1614

quote:
Originally posted by Mary-Ann Horley:
Oscar you p!ssed me off good and proper in that other topic with your evil misogynistic remarks but you seem to be missing the point in that no one is complaining about markups.

[ August 16, 2001: Message edited by: Mary-Ann Horley ]

Cool.

Gosh dog Mary Ann I have stood up for your honor in other posts and now I've p!ssed you off. I've p!ssed off my fair share and been called alot of names but I never had to look them up in a dictionary.(PS I can't find my dictionary, defintition please on misgynistic) Is that the synonym for mesocrazy?

I don't know what p!issed you off maybe it was that inevitable thing? It was a quote.

I'm taking bets that the Rotax outlasts the Leopard as a series. 2 to 1 limit 5 beters please, I need to save money to pay the extra $500.

In 3 years the Rotax class will dominate over the Leopard as well as most classes.

I will also bet that the worldwide price for Rotax goes up to match the US price. 1 to 1 odds, I'm not as confident but still a betting man. Limit 10 betters please, I need alot of tires for next year.

Remember you only hurt the ones you love Mary-Ann. I drove a Gold for 2 years does that count for anything besides, that I'm sorry?

Oscar Aguilera · Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 1614

Apples to apples. Why does a Biland 250 cost $400 more in the US than in Australia, Chad?

For that matter, what does a Gold Eyrie 100cc cost over there Mary-Ann?

A Kt100? Anyone?

If you say that SSC or Rotax is just selling them for more over here because they can and "we" on this post and others have agreed that there is little to no mark up. Why are we still on the priciple of things? It seems everything in karting is more over here. So who cares about the Mercedes example? Let's use karting examples and show what the cost differences are.

If the US stuff is marked up more than the other countries say 60% or most of the time, it is fair to say that the Rotax is no different than anything else in karting.

How much for the Leopard across the pond out of curioustiy?
Maybe I'm wrong again but I sacrafice myself for the good of the thread, flame away fellow posters.

Remember I luv ya!

Chad Stapleton · Joined: 19 Jul 2001 Posts: 4403

Oscar:-""Maybe I'm wrong again but I sacrafice myself for the good of the thread, flame away fellow posters.""--

Brave fellow Oscar !!
The Biland costs Au $5500 inc all taxes.
Thats about US $ 2860 at todays rate. Where did you get the $400 more from ??
The Leopard is Au$3000 = US$1560.
KT100s is Au$1100 = US$572 (ish !)
Brigestone YGK, Au$220 = US$115
Apples,? well you can grow them yourself !!

Have a good holiday weekend everyone ( its Friday pm here !
PS: "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow
in Australia."

Chad

Gary Kozuma1 · Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 386

Here's my exhaustive business case analysis: we'll pay the extra $500. Don't like it? don't buy it.

Please accept my appoligies for my sarchasim on this subject. IMHO

Chuck McCue · Joined: 17 Jul 2001 Posts: 2944

"In 3 years the Rotax class will dominate over the Leopard as well as most classes."

How many motors in the states have been sucessfull with limited distribution and limited dealers? Check the stats there are Absolutly none. The max "program" may build in pockets, but if you think that it will out number other motor programs you are mistaken. How do you think that the KT100 has become the keystone of 2 cycle racing.

bird · Joined: 17 Jul 2001 Posts: 147

Oscar, a misogynist is someone who hates women, and if you post quotes saying rape victims should lay back and enjoy it and imply you agree with that statement then you can't complain about that description being applied to you.

Don't know about Eyries because there aren't many about, but my friend paid £2900 ($4400?) for a Firefox/Max complete outfit. What's your price? (inc taxes)

Gemma · Joined: 03 Aug 2001 Posts: 70

I hope that there are more Rotax, Leopard type of motors bought onto the market. It will bring the costs down from the manufacturer eventually. The Max has gone up in price over the last few months in Australia, it is now $3095 or US$1620, and that includes everything.

Ray

Erik Frank

quote:
Originally posted by Mary-Ann Horley:
[QB]Oscar, a misogynist is someone who hates women, and if you post quotes saying rape victims should lay back and enjoy it and imply you agree with that statement then you can't complain about that description being applied to you.
QB]

I wince every time someone uses that infamous quote from Clayton Williams.

Bill Wright

I keep seeing all these claims by people who SAY they can buy "cheap" Max's, yet I don't recall seeing any dealers names, web addresses, phone numbers, etc.

I can claim to be able to buy stuff cheap, that doesn't mean I actually can.

Please post names/numbers, etc here so we can all find out the real story on who can get what for what. Let's find out who can actually DELIVER the goods!!

66 FL motors since December 29th!

Bill Wright
"Get on Course!" with FK www.formulakart.com