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Ric Smith
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 873 Location: United States, Nevada, Las Vegas
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:40 am Post subject: |
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Actually, the topic on whether JJ really is as good as they say could be up for debate, we'll save his crew chief's "cheating" rap sheet for another post. Now Jimmie ran for Herzog Motorsports in the Busch Series, now the Nationwide series for those who dont pay attention to nascar, or dont know the sport pre-48 car years
But the point is, in that car and during his time in the series, he only won one race for that team, Chicagoland in 2001, and was cause all the top teams of that time had trouble that race, mostly running out of fuel in the closing laps. And other than his gnarly Watkins Glen crash, no one hardly knew or cared who he was when it was announced he would join Hendrick Motorsports the following season in a Cup ride _________________ Git-R-Done! |
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Dan Haynes
Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 2391 Location: United States, Pennsylvania, Ellwood City
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:22 am Post subject: |
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true. but the same can be said for Tony Stewart. He was a nobody in the Busch series (i don't think he ever won a Busch race until after he went Cup racing). That's why i say it takes more than just a driver. i think Chad Knaus has a knack for making the right call at the right time. and yes he has been caught cheating on numerous occasions.
i think with JJ it's a combination of an above average driver that is good at keeping his car in one piece, a good crew chief, and the best equipment in racing. all that combined with that golden horseshoe stuck you know where makes them pretty tough to beat. _________________ Blaise Haynes
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Tom Jensen
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Posts: 10146 Location: United States, Nevada, Reno
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Ric Smith wrote: | | Actually, the topic on whether JJ really is as good as they say could be up for debate. |
Where? He's a four time champion. At this point Scott Speed will never be any good because winning 4 championships isn't enough to convince people you're any good. Actually, the topic really isn't up for debate. Saying a driver sucks doesn't really mean he sucks either. _________________ Sex is like pizza. When it's good it's great and when it's bad, it's still pretty good. |
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Jessie Luther
Joined: 03 Dec 2002 Posts: 233 Location: United States, California, CONCORD
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Great job Scott!
*~*Keep up the good work *~*
Your Mom & Dad must be on pins and needles.
**Another one of those Norcal Boys!!! |
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Mike Burris
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 574 Location: United States, California, Huntington Beach
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like the Cup championship points battle is returning to "normal".  |
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Linda Willareth Guest
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:16 am Post subject: karting |
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| I think it is wonderful whenever a big name in karting moves on up to Indy racing or NASCAR racing, or sports car racing--and for gosh sakes, give Danica and Scott and Sam alittle slack when it comes to finishing performances. Most stock car racers begin their careers as teen-agers on every dirt/asphalt/local track there is. Open wheel racers don't have that background.NO ONE IS GOOD AT ANYTHING RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX--so quit the criticism--sounds more like jealousy to me--if you think you can do better--then go out there and do it or SHUT THE HECK UP! |
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Tom Jensen
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Posts: 10146 Location: United States, Nevada, Reno
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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It's Bristol Baby! I'm sorry Scott wrecked out but it's a little soon to say "I told you so." Like Linda, I'm a Scott, Danica and Hornish fan and I wish them the best. I don't find glee in their misery or anyone's for that matter. Some people will never be convinced that they are good drivers. I figured that out when Rick said that the jury was still out on Jimmie Johnson. What's it take to be considered a good driver? _________________ Sex is like pizza. When it's good it's great and when it's bad, it's still pretty good. |
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Dan Haynes
Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 2391 Location: United States, Pennsylvania, Ellwood City
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Like was said Sunday, the 2 tracks that that you have little control over your own destiny are Daytona and Bristol. I've seen the leader at Bristol get caught up in a wreck that happened BEHIND him, so to speak. At under 16 seconds a lap it's hard to get out of the way when something happens.
What did happen to Scott this week, don't remember now. Was he caught up in a wreck or just off the pace a little?
Martinsville will probably be pretty tough on him also. These IRL and F1 drivers aren't used to these .5 mile bullrings (except Montoya). Scott is still solidly in the top 35 (I think he's about 18th now) so if he gets through this weekend with a top 30 finish then I think he'll be ok down the road.
It takes 3 years for these guys to transition over. This is only his second. Next year he will be a little better and the following year he will begin to run up front. _________________ Blaise Haynes
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Joe Brizzolara
Joined: 27 Jan 2009 Posts: 506 Location: United States, New Jersey,
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Dan Haynes wrote: | Like was said Sunday, the 2 tracks that that you have little control over your own destiny are Daytona and Bristol. I've seen the leader at Bristol get caught up in a wreck that happened BEHIND him, so to speak. At under 16 seconds a lap it's hard to get out of the way when something happens.
What did happen to Scott this week, don't remember now. Was he caught up in a wreck or just off the pace a little?
Martinsville will probably be pretty tough on him also. These IRL and F1 drivers aren't used to these .5 mile bullrings (except Montoya). Scott is still solidly in the top 35 (I think he's about 18th now) so if he gets through this weekend with a top 30 finish then I think he'll be ok down the road.
It takes 3 years for these guys to transition over. This is only his second. Next year he will be a little better and the following year he will begin to run up front. |
He had a cut tire. Don't remember if he hit the wall because of it or just dropped back because he had to pit. |
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Tom Jensen
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Posts: 10146 Location: United States, Nevada, Reno
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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The Sounds of Nascar on Speed is featuring Scott right now. Colin Fleming got a little air time at Scott's wedding. _________________ Sex is like pizza. When it's good it's great and when it's bad, it's still pretty good. |
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jeff grose
Joined: 11 Dec 2008 Posts: 1252 Location: United States, Florida, cocoa
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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What's up with the hairdo (color) on Scott Speed, he was just interviewed on Speed TV Nascar Martinsville practice, Holy Smokes
jeff _________________ jlgracing
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Mike Burris
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 574 Location: United States, California, Huntington Beach
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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I think its for recognition purposes in case someone forgets his name they can say the guy with the green and purple hair just blew a tire or something!  |
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Anthony Asmar
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 56 Location: United States, California,
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: karting |
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| Linda Willareth wrote: | | I think it is wonderful whenever a big name in karting moves on up to Indy racing or NASCAR racing, or sports car racing--and for gosh sakes, give Danica and Scott and Sam alittle slack when it comes to finishing performances. Most stock car racers begin their careers as teen-agers on every dirt/asphalt/local track there is. Open wheel racers don't have that background.NO ONE IS GOOD AT ANYTHING RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX--so quit the criticism--sounds more like jealousy to me--if you think you can do better--then go out there and do it or SHUT THE HECK UP! |
Yea, what she said.. and I would've replaced "heck" with something else. |
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Matt McCauley
Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 422
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| i had great aspirations for scott at one point. now i just think of him as scott "switching series" speed, if stock car doesnt work we know he will try rally or sprint car if those dont work maybe he will make a karting come back with alex |
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Tom Jensen
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Posts: 10146 Location: United States, Nevada, Reno
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Matt McCauley wrote: | | i had great aspirations for scott at one point. now i just think of him as scott "switching series" speed, if stock car doesnt work we know he will try rally or sprint car if those dont work maybe he will make a karting come back with alex |
I don't think it was as simple as that. I don't think Scott woke up one morning and said, "Hey, I think I'll go to NASCAR." I imagine that being in the pinnacle of motorsports is probably one of the greatest feats in the world. At the same time, I imagine that he was probably treated like **** by all the Europeans who just thought of him as a stupid American. It was probably pretty hard on him. I remember talking to Scott in Vegas a few years ago and I said, "You must be having the time of your life." All he kept saying was that "It is a lot of work. More than you can imagine." He didn't seem particularly happy about being there. If Red Bull wanted him in F1, they would have kept him there but they are serious about winning an I guess they thought he'd be better off in NASCAR. F1 sounds great but the lifestyle, the money and perks that come from being in NASCAR have got to be outrageous. He met his wife, he's closer to his family, he's an American and not a minority. I'll admit, he's not your average good ole boy but he's holding his own. He's getting better daily and I have no doubt he will be competitive. He just needs to win a race and once he's bit by that bug, he'll want another one. He's not a failure, in fact, I would consider him to be very successful. He's raced F1 and he races cup. Failures don't make it that far. He's obviously not a quitter. You'll see. _________________ Sex is like pizza. When it's good it's great and when it's bad, it's still pretty good. |
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