What Redline oil

Paul Hutt · Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:29 pm Post subject: What Redline oil

I see that a number use Redline oil. Exactly which Redline oil.
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Chris Hatch · Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 405

I suggest there are much better 4-cycle oils out there.

Paul Hutt · Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject:

OK.

Curious what type of pan do you use when you drain the oil.
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Karl Cleeton · Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject:

Either Redline 20wt Race or the Redline 4 Cycle Kart oil, I've run both with great results.
There's a good post here on Redline oil. http://karting.4cycle.com/showthread.php?t=249217&page
See post #21

Bernie Lacotta · Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 168

Todd P Weaver · Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:02 am Post subject:

+1

I use Thor medium because I'm turning my WF in the 8000RPM range. Stock WF/animal = Thor light
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Mitch Wright · Joined: 04 Sep 2001 Posts: 437

We have been using Redline 20wt racing oil for years and personally I have found it superior to anything else we have used.
JMO

Chris Hatch · Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 405

Everyone has an opinion. Mine (after 25 years) is I will stick with a an oil designed specifically for a splash delivery system. I like Cool Power, but also used Thor and FHS with success.

I am not here to say anyone didn't have success with whatever they are using.

Dean Graves · Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject:

Redline works well.

Karl Cleeton · Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject:

John Matthews · Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:08 pm Post subject:

I personally prefer Snake Brand Oil, it'll give you 10 more horsepower than anything else out there Laughing

Seriously though, when I got back into karts I wanted to run RedLine 2-stroke oil but found out there was a "spec" oil at our track. My experience with them started with SCCA GT cars in San Francisco Region. I watched our car dump out ALL it's oil at 7000 rpm and not even spin a bearing. The folks at RedLine are serious chemists that worked at the oil refineries in Benicia for years before going into business. Regardless of what anybody says these guys know oil like few others in the world, that's why their stuff is used in EVERY form of motorsports there is.

Now, when I started building 4-stroke engines with Mike Clements he wouldn't use anything other that FHS 62R. It's some seriously good stuff and we needed it for the open motors we built. We shipped a quart with every engine just so folks wouldn't mess them up by running whatever they have in the garage. One day last year I needed to fire something up on the dyno and found out I was out of 62R. Well, I poked around and read some threads on Bob's and found out that one of RedLine's tech guys was defending their products on the forum and actually using science rather than the kind of hype usually associated with karting oils. So, I called him up and had a nice long chat about oil and ended up buying a couple of quarts of RedLine 50 wt race oil from my local speed shop.

It works just fine. And this is running a 40hp open motor on the dyno pushing it harder than you ever will on track. So don't worry about RedLine, (or any other motor oil for that matter) not being "engineered" for splash oil systems. It will make it to the places where it's needed. Good quality karting oils will do the job as will good quality automotive oils. In fact, with all the hassles of different oils not being compatible I'm actually starting to use conventional race oil for my dyno runs. I did have a couple of oil related failures last year with a product I won't mention since I can't be sure of the chemistry. But you can be sure that RedLine is good stuff, I even know of some racers that just strain it through a coffee filter and use it again and again Shocked

This isn't to discount anyone elses experience with whatever brand of oil they use but just to let you know you're not crazy for running it. But do change it at least every race Laughing

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Bob Francis · Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:25 pm Post subject:

Does anybody have an opinion on Mobil 1 or other full synthetic oils in air cooled four strokes?
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Paul Hutt · Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject:

John Matthews · Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:23 pm Post subject:

If you're trying to save money just use a conventional race oil (heavy weight is better).

I've used mobile1 on stockers but it would probably be fine to just run walmart brand 30wt if you change it frequently and don't overheat/over-rev the engine.

The two most important things other than not abusing your engine are clean oil and clean air filters. But, IMHO there are better places to try and save money on racing. One rebuild is quite a few quarts of oil even if you use the expensive stuff Wink

Also, don't go changing to different oils unless you know what you're doing. Your best bet is to run what your builder says or you might be calling him sooner than you want Crying or Very sad

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