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james jackson



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi dose any one know the Honda part number for the straight induction rubber off the ATV for the 01 engine?
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Ian Harrison



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Chris

Didn't you read my 2009 update!! Don't know why I bother Confused

Ian Harrison wrote:
Chris, read the woefully out-of-date bit under my signature. Add 4 new 2009 British lap records, winners of the 2009 MSA British Championship and 2009 UK Cup winners. Now comment on the success, competitiveness and value for money of the ubiquitous CR250.


Ooops, late edit, forgot we also won the 2009 British Super 4 (Short circuit) Championship with Chris Pike. Sorry Chris - great job.

As I said woefully out-of-date. 2008 was similar, but I can't be arsed, might look like I'm bragging. Wink Wink

And your achievements are???

Here's some facts:

We have had GasGas' racing in the UK at the European Championship round at Donington in 2004 (won 1 race in the wet, a superb achievement!!).
We have GasGas' racing every year at our GP meeting combined with our good friends and visitors from the European Superracekart series.
We have 2 UK based drivers that run GasGas motors (one has just moved to cars).

None of these have at any time matched or bettered our best (which was either by Trevor, James or Sam)Honda CR250 lap times with their GasGas powered karts Cool

The GasGas is a great motor, I would never question that as everyone knows.

Next!!

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Ian Very Happy
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Ian Harrison



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi James

16221-430-000

From your friedly local Honda MX Dealer (or of course for the UK Guys from Viper Racing UK, who carry them in their vast stocks at bargain prices Very Happy )

But don't buy one until you see the results of our tests Cool

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Ian Harrison



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Chris

Gaw, that took some finding!!

Here (on the right) is our first "crudely hand-carved" prototype for the '02 on which we used a bolt on flange. Obviously we didn't spend too much time on it, but it proved the priciples and from that the rubber and flange for the VF-2 (on the left) was developed.

This allowed you to fit to the '02 without having to remove the boss and web from the crankcase (which we weren't allowed to do at the time).

Now in the UK we are allowed to modify the casing, so if you want 50 or so of those rubbers you can have them very, very cheap Rolling Eyes







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Chris Reinhardt



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian, you definitely know more than me, but everything everybody on this side of the pond has said hands down that a CR can't keep with a Gas-Gas.
The results here in the US reflect that.
Maybe you need to send some of your motors over here????

My accomplishments?
Lap records: Summit Point, Carolina Motorsports Park, Loudon NHIS, Barber Motorsports Park.
WKC 125 Champion 4 times, Multi National winner and Grand National Champion......

OK I'm an arse!!!

CR


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Ian Harrison



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Chris

OK. I enjoyed our little bit of fun and banter!!

I would have to modestly admit that I do produce the best CR250 kart motors in the world. Wink

I would also have to admit that the GasGas motor same as Andy's or JR's is more powerful and has a better spread of power and is smoother than any CR250 I have ever produced (so far).

But if you are racing CR's against CR's or GasGas against GasGas it dosen't matter a damn.

What matters is a balance between initial investment, reliability, servicing and repair cost and how that translates to grid size.

In the end it all boils down to the economics of the individuals both singley and as a group.

An engine dosen't make a winner. It's a combination of driver/chassis/engine/tyres/setup/weight and team.

That's why Andy and JR blow the twins running in the US with 15-20Hp more into the weeds.

I would love to bring an Anderson Viper CR250 to Miller in 2010 for Trevor. All it needs is for someone to buy it, pay up-front and take it away from Park Ferme. Otherwise perhaps Andy or JR would like to do a swap drive (we will have 2 Anderson Maverick Div 1/BRC's in 2010) and we'll see Trevor on an Anderson GasGas in the US.

Oh and that's a great driving record Chris, you must be very proud.

See Andy, I did it again Confused

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Ian Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would also have to admit that the GasGas motor same as Andy's or JR's is more powerful and has a better spread of power and is smoother than any CR250 I have ever produced (so far).


Almost 2 pages of BS and you finally admit it!!! Shocked Laughing Rolling Eyes

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Sid Swift



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Ian,
Any testing yet?? any promising results?? any improvements??
I'am waiting impatiently-BWAHAHA---Hoping all goes well!!!
Best regards Sid
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guys

Andy you see what I get for being "nice", complimentary and holding out the hand of friendship and understanding. From now on I'm for winding the handle Confused

Chris Reinhardt wrote:
Ian, you definitely know more than me

I can't argue with that Chris, but it's not much of a compliment is it Crying or Very sad
I also know more than a sack of horse **** Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Chris Reinhardt wrote:
My accomplishments?
Lap records: Summit Point, Carolina Motorsports Park, Loudon NHIS, Barber Motorsports Park.
WKC 125 Champion 4 times, Multi National winner and Grand National Champion......

Of course your lap records are all current and your victories were against competitive fields of the countries top runners with fields of 40-60 karts in your class - - just like ours. Well Champion of 2 or 3 is no mean achievement - or is 2 or 3 even a slight overstatement Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Chris Reinhardt wrote:
OK I'm an arse!!!

Well you did get one thing right. You really are - -totally, utterly and completely Laughing Laughing Laughing

Ian Harrison wrote:
I would also have to admit that the GasGas motor same as Andy's or JR's is more powerful and has a better spread of power and is smoother than any CR250 I have ever produced (so far).

Never said anything different as anyone will tell you Cool

Of course you have the authority to speak as the owner and driver of either a GasGas, CR250 or both

Chris, Go play with the other children

As for me, no further comment Wink

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Ian Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Sid

The one commodity we always run out of is time

I should have got on the dyno today, but it ain't going to happen!!

So, I'll be on with the BRC tomorrow testing the final spec that we will run in 2010 and then Thursday and Friday night it's Honda CR250 Reed Blocks. This is going to create an ongoing series regarding various aspects of CR250 development, both cylinder and crankcase induction.

Don't worry I'll keep you current

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Harrison that's a classic Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ian, Not sure why my name keeps getting dragged into this Question Shocked Confused I do like the addition to you signature though. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Keep winding the handling. It makes reading this so much more interesting. Now all we need is Sam and Ted to chime in. Rolling Eyes Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian Harrison wrote:
Hi Sid

The one commodity we always run out of is time

I should have got on the dyno today, but it ain't going to happen!!

So, I'll be on with the BRC tomorrow testing the final spec that we will run in 2010 and then Thursday and Friday night it's Honda CR250 Reed Blocks. This is going to create an ongoing series regarding various aspects of CR250 development, both cylinder and crankcase induction.

Don't worry I'll keep you current

Best Regards

Ian Very Happy


If you would do more dyno testing and less typing we all would have the answer by now. Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian Harrison wrote:
Hi Chris

OK. I enjoyed our little bit of fun and banter!!

I would have to modestly admit that I do produce the best CR250 kart motors in the world. Wink

See Andy, I did it again Confused

Best Regards

Ian Very Happy


Wow! Ian that is being modest! Rolling Eyes Wink Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont get me started,, At least im sober to write this.. Stop having a go Chris ( there are only two guys in my class and i still came third ) Reinhardt
Ian that ESR reed block you have there is nothing like mine. Mine is a once peice billet
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