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Jim Pelletterie



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:06 pm    Post subject: Query, full width rear bumper Reply with quote

In spite of what the WKA or IKF mandate what is your thought on the full width rear bumpers. Our club is kicking this around right now and I'd like to educate myself.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Query, full width rear bumper Reply with quote

Jim Pelletterie wrote:
In spite of what the WKA or IKF mandate what is your thought on the full width rear bumpers. Our club is kicking this around right now and I'd like to educate myself.


Makes it easier to wreck someone.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just a bumper. It does not magically make karts crash into each other.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howie Idelson wrote:
It's just a bumper. It does not magically make karts crash into each other.


Did I say that?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always run one and feel that it has saved me from having other karts hit me in the neck on several occasions.

I haven't found that I have been bumped or 'wrecked' any more than the other drivers with narrow bumpers.

Bruce
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: Query, full width rear bumper Reply with quote

double post..
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Roger Hargens



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We were disassembling and putting my son's kart away for the winter. He pointed to the outer edges of the wide (KG, plastic) bumper he ran this season. They were pretty well beat up. He said "I think I would've had a couple of flippers on my head without this bumper". I think he might be right. You can argue it both ways, but on balance, I think we're better off with them than without them.
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jim rogero



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

imo karting would be better off with them in the younger karters only.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These bumpers make ALOT more sense than the neck collars. I haven't run one yet but I bet it would have save my $450 rad!

GB
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Kyle Prokup



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been pushed off twice from someone hitting the corner of my full width bumper. I also have a couple of tire marks where karts WOULD have gone over me, so I don't know what to say...
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Ron Scott



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My opinion is i would rather go back to what we had before. It seems to me that the only guy that loses is the guy in front. With open wheels in the back at least the kart doing the passing had to respect them.

We had a bad experiance with someone trying to pass us, when they spun us they got caught up, went over the bumper, sheared the plug off the top of our motor and ended up injuring my sons shoulder. Not to mention gouging the cylinder head and tearing up a fresh paint job on his helmet.

From watching it happen I think with a short bumper the passing driver would never had made that attempt......

I can think of another incedent when the full width rear bumpers caused karts to get on top of each other...enough for a red flag and few few guys getting medical attention......again watching several races at this track without them I know the bumpers caused the issue....this same group of drivers has started clean at this track several times......

And yes they make it WAY easier to pass someone.....which is what caused both of these incedents......

We have been in plenty of first lap "racing incedents" mid to rear pack over the last several years and I do NOT like these full width bumpers.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

your comments are appreciated so keep them coming. has anyone had any experience with the rotax type roller system?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gregg boyce wrote:
These bumpers make ALOT more sense than the neck collars. I haven't run one yet but I bet it would have save my $450 rad!

GB


No they dont, I was ran one for one weekend this year. Kid drove over the back of my kart and hit me in the back, leaving rubber marks on my suit and the motor.

Ill stick to the open wheel option, atleast that makes them think twice before drive so close to my bumper.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No they dont, I was ran one for one weekend this year. Kid drove over the back of my kart and hit me in the back, leaving rubber marks on my suit and the motor.

Jason, maybe you should drive a faster kart or quit running with kids, I hear they're ruthless Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a good 30lbs on him, guess I could of kicked his butt in the scale house. Laughing
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