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William French



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:16 am    Post subject: Tony Kart Seat Position Reply with quote

Does anyone have a baseline seat position/measurements that they are willing to share for a 2006 Krypton with an XL Tillett seat? I have the measurements that Tony Kart gives out for the new karts but they don't seem to be achievable with the larger seat/driver.
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Clarence Carter



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get it to where you are comfortable . Mine is as far back and to the left as I could get it.
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Cory Milne



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as far as seat position goes if your kart has a push move the seat forward
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Walt Gifford



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3/4" below the frame, 1" left of center, tilt it back so the flat on the bottom is up 1/8" in the front.

Move your pedals forward, tilt the steering wheel forward (an extended steering hub helps) and get the seat as far forward as you can without your hands getting stuck on your legs too tight. Some tightness is good, you want to be able to lock the steering wheel by jamming your leg on your fist for when your arms give out.

I use 4 big "C" clamps and a piece of 3/4" ply across the bottom of the frame and shim it down with 3/4" wood on both sides. Then you can sit in the seat and slide around while you take measurements. Once you get the main seat strut positions marked the rest is easy. Drill the holes 1/16" lower than you marked them because the seat will settle a bit.


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Christopher Hill



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are having trouble mounting the seat where the factory says to you might have to bend the tabs or struts to get the seat in the right place. It might also be that you have a different style or manufacture of seat than what Tony kart intended you to put in the kart. For example Arrow seats are a little different dimension than a Tillet so when I race an Arrow I use an Arrow seat because it takes some of the guess work out of putting it in right. When I raced an Intrepid I had the choice between a Tillet and the cheaper looking Intrepid seat but I took the Intrepid seat because it was able to go into the kart and fit the dimensions that Intrepid said worked the best. The result of sticking to what the designer recommended verses what might be comfortable is the kart was easy to set up and was fast. With all due respect to other posters don't reinvent the wheel, either bend the struts and tabs to make the seat fit the exact measurements Tony kart gave you or buy a seat that will fit those measurements. I've had a few examples over the years as a tuner where I was tuning for someone who put their seat in by what felt comfortable or some other method than what was recommended and we spent the day chasing the set up until I broke out the tape measure and moved the seat to the right spot. In one case that I remember the kid I was tuning for was over 3/4 of a second faster just by moving the seat 10mm higher from the axle which was the only measurement that wasn't where Haase had recommended the seat be for a kid his height and weight. He sat on pole and would have won if he didn't wreak. Anyways that just my .02

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Clarence Carter



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 6'2" and 205lbs. I don't have many seat mounting options. I'm still a little cramped in the kart. Being comfortable made me a lot faster.
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Oscar Aguilera



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you big/tall guys need to remember to still try to put the seat where the factory recommends. then add the extended porch.

but if that isnt enough ,

tillet makes a T-11 that is leaned back by the angle of the mold of the seat. it is a flat bottom seat. IMO i dont recommend mounting the seat below the frame rails unless you have a seat sponsor. the benefits of running the seat below the frame rails IMO doesnt out weigh the costs of replacing the seat often.

just my opinion
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:56 pm    Post subject: Seat repairs Reply with quote

Oscar,

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Brian Mead



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't replace them, you reglass them. @ 205 6-2 IMO go right to the ground and bring it up enough so as not to scrape to much. Scale the kart with you in it and try for 42-43 percent on the front. I've run heats sitting on plastic number panels duct taped in the seat to prevent that warm feeling that lets you know your too low.
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