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Josh Kestner
Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: New to karting, LO206 Briggs Good Idea? |
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I'm new to karting down in Orlando, FL and looking to purchase my first kart. I spoke with the a gentlemen up at 103rd in Jacksonville about weather or not there would be any competition for me with this setup. He said that the stock animal class was one of their most competitive and I asked him if I could run my LO206 with them, he said "I don't see why not"
By my understanding, the 206 is the same as a stock animal correct? or am I wrong? If not, would I still be competitive with it?
Picking up a nice used 2stroke chassis and putting on a 206 onto it seems to be a rather in-expensive endeavor <$1800 with a decent chassis. <$1500 with a lesser chassis.
What do you guys think? I love feedback, positive or negatie
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Josh Kestner
Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess not, Lo206's have a 6100rpm limiter correct? Whats the rpm of a stock animal? |
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Benn Herr
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 1580
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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The LO206 should be legal in the Stock Animal class. You will be a little down on power to a fully blue printed Animal and you will be a couple thousand RPM short - 6100 vs. whatever a good Animal does. But it will get you on the track and running. Figure out the kart, the mechanics, the gearing, the handling. Then you can switch the ignition and get a blue print if you want. _________________ Benn Herr
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Josh Kestner
Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Benn Herr wrote: | | The LO206 should be legal in the Stock Animal class. You will be a little down on power to a fully blue printed Animal and you will be a couple thousand RPM short - 6100 vs. whatever a good Animal does. But it will get you on the track and running. Figure out the kart, the mechanics, the gearing, the handling. Then you can switch the ignition and get a blue print if you want. |
That is exactly what I'm thinking. If I get a decent chassis (2005) or so, and using it in a stock animal class I shouldn't wear on it much so I should be able to "grow" with it. I have to start somewhere, and with the restrictor on it, it should make the motor very reliable. Once the motor poops on me, I could either have it blueprinted or switch classes all together. I just want to race, as long as there is a class for me to race in I'll be enjoying the hell out of it. It will surely make me "smooth" on a kart.
Who knows, the LO206 is new, maybe there will be a class for it soon. |
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Todd Snider
Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 607 Location: United States, Arizona, gilbert
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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I believe you can swap the ignition or just the coil on the 206 if the rev limiter was an issue. Something to consider. Might want to ask one of the Briggs builders.
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Devin Smith
Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 87
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Swap the Magneto about $90, add A Dyno an001 or 002 cam with CR for you can still pull start it about $80. Are Animal without the restrictor will pull 7150 never had much time to play with it since we usually run JR1 with the gold IKF restictor on gas. We will pull 6500 when geared right in Jr1.
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Jamie Webb
Joined: 30 Aug 2001 Posts: 584
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:48 am Post subject: |
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You will not be anywhere near competitive with a built "stock" WKA Animal with a LO206.
If you are looking to take the LO206 and convert it to a blueprinted Animal, then yes you will be fine. But if you plan on pulling the LO206 out of the box and running the Animal class, I think you will be disappointed. _________________ Jamie Webb
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John Matthews
Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 1990 Location: United States, Michigan, Williamsburg
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:46 am Post subject: |
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As a new guy you won't be anywhere near competitive with a blueprinted Animal, there's just too much other stuff to learn like chassis set-up, driving, tires, etc.
The LO206 will get you out on track with a set-up that will run for as long as you need to learn the other stuff. Then you can send it to Jamie, or any one of us engine builders and get it converted to a competitive stock Animal.
But, what you might find is some of the guys who are running stock Animal might just want to join you with the LO206 to save a few bucks. Or, they might get some of their buddies started with their old chassis and the LO206 engine. You might just be the start of a new class down there, you never know. But what you won't be is stuck with the TaG engine of the month for $3k that costs a fortune to maintain
In any case the LO206 will provide what you need to get started without trying to figure out all the details on buying/operating a "competitive" stock Animal. When you're ready to step up you will already have the base engine and your chassis will be tuned so you can use the extra power. Most importantly, you will have taken the time to learn how to drive smoothly so your chances of running up front will be much higher.
Good luck, _________________ John Matthews
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Josh Kestner
Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 12
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Is running 2stroke chassis very popular in 4cycle sprint racing? Because i'm looking to get a decent chassis that I can possibly upgrade in the coming years kt100 or whatever. |
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Les Prins
Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 37 Location: United States, Colorado,
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Why not get an Animal, not the LO206? I believe they are around same price. They have the same parts except for a fire-ring head gasket, a blue coil and no pull starter but you could find one of them fairly easy. It will have a 12,000 rev limiter but gear it to 7,000 to 7500 for sprint tracks, they can take it. It would get you closer to the others and have the blue coil to blueprint it later.
Just a thought. |
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Mitch Wright
Joined: 04 Sep 2001 Posts: 437
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yes you can use a 2/ chassis, Burris has a really nice jackshaft setup that makes it easy and eliminates the rear sprocket/rear cross bar fit issues if they exsist.
www.burrisracing.com |
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Shannon Schmidt
Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 381 Location: United States, Utah, Salt Lake City
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Josh Kestner wrote: | | Is running 2stroke chassis very popular in 4cycle sprint racing? Because i'm looking to get a decent chassis that I can possibly upgrade in the coming years kt100 or whatever. |
Josh..If you choose a 2 cylce chassis, I would try and find a good 30/32 frame. You can use a 32/32, but you will find more adjustability with the 30/32. I hav done very well with my 32/32, but everytime I get on a 30/32, I am faster. _________________ Miller Motorsport Park
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charles hunter
Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 732 Location: United States, California, anaheim
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Benn is correct, the 206 is down on power to the animal but we can stay somewhat close to the world formulas ALSO if you have never raced karts I assure you two areas of your body will violently tighten and shrivel up even with the rev limiter on when you take the green for the first time and fly into turn one. _________________ swampwater smyth concurs "If you aint first, yer last."
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