Vintage duals at Calspeed Fontana, Ca.

Thomas Sherman

Myself and 3 friends dragged out our early 80's Emmick dual engined karts out to Calspeed on Friday practice. Inititialy we were denied access to the track due to lack of modern safety features in which we understood. Rob, the track manager could have easily turned us away but instead granted us our own class so we could be out there without jeopardizing safety of others and their insurance.

We had alot of fun ! We want to thank the track management of the Fontana track which invited us back anytime during Wednesday or Friday practice days. In addition to it's normal novice, junior, and senior sessions they will add vintage if enough folks show.

The Calspeed track in Fontana is a mecca for the duals !! Our oldies turned a few heads out there. We will be back.
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George Sunderland · Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 2006

I have a vintage dual sprinter myself. Out of curiosity, what specific modern safety were your kartsm issing? 5/16 wheel studs? Even the karts in the '80s required bolts to be wired, etc. We also have dual braking systems on the twins even back then. Can't think of that much which has changed.

Jerry VanDeusen · Joined: 26 Sep 2001 Posts: 415

only thing that the late 70's early 80's to todays kart dont have is body work.
we have more braking power on the vintage twins then the tags karts have today

Hey Tom you guys going to Bakersfeild in May?
I got my B-open running
Norm should have his C-open back together and my dad will have his B-open Should have a good class.

Jerry

Rob Niles · Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:52 am Post subject:

Ever since driving Randy Fulks' B-open enduro at Road America back in the 80s I guess I have a soft spot in my heart for duals. Now if you really want to pull at my heart strings, bring out a triple Mac or West Bend with 6 carbs and I'll let you in for free!
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Alex King · Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject:

I think Calspeed is the best track in Southern California. I think Rob is doing a great job over there. And I think their Master Karting League has a lot of potential too. Alex

kurt zimmerman · Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:32 pm Post subject: duals

dudes! pm me next time you go to cal speed -w- the duals. i used to love watching jack nelson, bob meli, bob sanders et al at azusa late 60's early 70's when i was a jr. i only live about 10 min west of the track. what kind of tires are you guys using? engines, clutches, pipes?
kurt... Very Happy

John Matthews · Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject:

Anyone who's never seen these karts run doesn't know what they're missing. We all used to put our tools down and head to the fence whenever the duals fired up.

Sure the ICC's are pretty impressive but IMHO nothing compared to a couple of open 135cc duals and, they ran on hard Goodyear Blue Streaks and Carslile Super Slicks Shocked

Keep it up boys, I might just get one of Jerry's chassis and join you some day Smile

Cheers,
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Steve Buckner · Joined: 22 Apr 2003 Posts: 839

How about racing at the Super Nats in Vegas. I have been working on this for about a month now and will keep everyone posted. We are thinking about running fri practice and sat night fun race. What do you think? Very Happy

charles hunter · Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:26 am Post subject:

I think Calspeed is not the best track in So Cal.
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Thomas Sherman · Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject:

Hi again guys. Glad to see I am not alone with the old duals. The safety issues are lack of full nerf protection and lack of impact front bumper, otherwise no issues.

My kart is a 1979 Emmick Arrow dual with PCR reeds. My buddies karts are 2 more Emmick Arrow duals and one Emmick Elite dual.

These older karts do not handle quite like the latest, You slide them and steer with the throttle. Tons of fun and make you look like "smilin Bob" behind the face shield. Driving mine has made a better current day racer.

Hey Jerry, come join us out there ! Will not be attending Bakersfield because of other race schedule conflict.

Hey Rob, I will take you up on your offer and bring out the 1968 Margay New Breed with dual West Bend 820's !
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JT Miles · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject:

My dad has a dual New Breed with Mac 101's.. we are putting a cheetah dual 101's together for me this year.. awesome to ride..

Jeff Stamper · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject:

I went to Quincy last Oct to see the Vintage Kart Olympics and had a great time seeing all the old karts from back when I started. But the best part was watching Traeder,Speed, Mann and some others out there in the C-Opens. They are not true Vintage, but still a wild ride. I joined VKA but soon was back into modern racing. But the best part is, I was asked by Jeff Brown to come out and Flag the C-Opens at New Castle when the Legends of this sport come out. Haddock,Dismore,Speed,Traeder,Stewart and many more. I am excited. I hope someone else counts laps because I am sure I wont be able to ! You all should come if you are nearby. Its June 18,19,20 at New Castle
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JT Miles · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:29 pm Post subject:

We run at TNT every year.. its a blast to run the vintage karts..

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Jerry VanDeusen · Joined: 26 Sep 2001 Posts: 415

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