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Taylor Jocelyn



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comment withdrawn, I may address later (cooler heads may prevail but I doubt it)

CAMERON you rock and should be at the worlds
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats to Jose Zanella for the championship!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea when the full results will finally get posted on MyLaps so we can see how everyone in each class did?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CAMERON finished 3rd did he not? He is going. Confused


Why two white flag laps in the Minimax final??

Not sure what happened but hold your head up RC you did a great job.



Congrats to all the Florida kids everyone here I'm sure is very proud of you.


Safe drive home everyone.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shannon Gannon wrote:
Any idea when the full results will finally get posted on MyLaps so we can see how everyone in each class did?


I would guess when it's official. By the comment above, looks like some things happened in post tech.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don johnson wrote:

Why two white flag laps in the Minimax final??


I feel bad for RC, but gotta race until you see the checker. And remember the white flag is just a nice cortesy flag. I've seen where the flag man forgot to use it.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob and Dave,

You made many karting lovers very happy with your updates. Thanks.

I have put some numbers together:

The first graph is Total numbers of karts divided by manufactured that entered the race.

The second graph is podium finishes.

Because some of the manufacturers don't make a DD2 Kart, I did not count the DD2 Podium. But it looks like the Arrow and the 2 brothers dominated.






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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary,

I agree with you 100%, you must always race until you are absolutelly sure you see the checker flag.

Now taking in concideration that the starter made a HUGE mistake and we are dealing with 8 to 12 year old kids, it is just not right.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completely agree with Gary here. If this were Sr's, even Jr's for that matter... a mistake like that, by the racer, would be his or her own fault. However, with the kiddos, the flagman has a bit more responsibility to get things right. In my opinion, the starter made an unforgiveable error and it has left one young racer crushed. This should not happen in any class... especially minis. This was nationals after all. One would think the starter would have his or her sh*t together.

Just my two cents.

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Gary,

I agree with you 100%, you must always race until you are absolutelly sure you see the checker flag.

Now taking in concideration that the starter made a HUGE mistake and we are dealing with 8 to 12 year old kids, it is just not right.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andre,

Would you list out the kart manufacturers of the podium finishers? The unofficial results I see from previous posts are these:

UNOFFICIAL podium from the Junior Final:
1. Jose Zanella +2.413
2. Jarvis Gennari
3. Cameron Jocelyn

UNOFFICIAL podium from the Mini Max Final:
1. Jake French +3.993
2. Dore Chaponick
3. Jordan Perry

UNOFFICIAL podium from the Masters Final:
1. Alex Raine +0.519
2. Erik Jackson
3. Jerry Shawn Tatum

UNOFFICIAL podium from the DD2 Final:
1. Stuart Marsell +2.235
2. Brandon Marsell
3. Curtis Cooksey

UNOFFICIAL podium from the Senior Final:
1. Thiago Parazinho
2. Arie Ouimet
3. Mike Giessen
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes the sr. final finsihed on slicks until the rain started o fall again and they red flagged it and called it. the week was full of terrible calls from the officials. the whole 30 minute repar was a joke and the final decision to call it even though they announced we had to make a decision betwen drys and wets. even though it started raining the race should have finished and everyone should have had to live with the decisions they made.

unfortunately cameron was dq'd. not sure for what or if it has the potential to be overturned. but cameron drove an awesome race and i was pretty bumed out to hear he wasnt going.


DD2
1. Arrow
2. Arrow
3. CRG

Sr.
1. Zanardi
2. CRG
3. Birel

Masters
1. CRG
2. Arrow (unfotunately i believe jackson was dq'd aswell)
3. ?

Mini Max
1. Margay
2. ?
3. ?

Junior
1.Alonso
2. Tony Kart
3. Birel
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice job everybody...wish i coulda been there... Ill be back next year for sure... Nice job north texas crew Gabriel, Clint, Devin, and taylor. Michael self you had a hell of a week....maby next year we will push eachotherinto the top three..
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the Gillards was actually a Shockwave. They rented it from us at the event for their MiinMax.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats to ssc east and Arie Ouimet on an awesome 2nd place finish.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:20 am    Post subject: nats Reply with quote

I would like to thank the people at the track for all of their hospitality. The Track has been one of the best run tracks we have been to.

Thanks to all that came by the tent to congratulate then console Cameron and all of us. Cameron handeled it better than the rest of us.

The DQ was for an oil seal that was inverted upon instalation. no performance advantage of any sort.

Good luck to all of the US team wish we were going with you.

The Jocelyn Family
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