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Jason Fisher



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject: FIA says no to F1 drivers at Supernats? Reply with quote

I have read on a couple of reliable websites that the FIA has threatened to pull the superliscense of any F1 driver that does the Supernats. They claim to be able to do that because the race is held on a non FIA aproved track. Has anyone else heard of this?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Supernats, no F1. That's a pretty crappy move on Bernie and Max's part.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Herd talk of it a couple of weeks ago. It's not the FIA that had the problem but CIK. CIK drivers couldn't get a license so they started complaining that the F1 guys were driving and started that ball rolling. Let's hope it's not true.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if you don't have a ride for 2007?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shayne,

Such blasphemy , we love the CIK, what other way is there? Wink


Well, I thought I remember certain drivers getting around this by being banned for the remainder of the calender year(6 weeks since Sn is in NOv and no big Euro races) And having a new license being issued after a "probation".

Of course, these weren't F1 kart racers, just kart racers.

Man I can't imagine the backlash if Scott can't race, you know, the series and race that made him what he is. I can imagine certain CIk races coming to America being in jeopardy.

I hope it's not true, just fun Euro "press"
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It just dawned on me. There will be a lot of press on scott. CIK isn't going to like not getting the credit and having another body a chance to be a little proud of one thing. Whether it's enough of a stick in the eye to flex muscles, lets hope not.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So...No Shumacher? Damn, I bet he's pissed.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: FIA says no to F1 drivers at Supernats? Reply with quote

Jason Fisher wrote:
I have read on a couple of reliable websites that the FIA has threatened to pull the superliscense of any F1 driver that does the Supernats. They claim to be able to do that because the race is held on a non FIA aproved track. Has anyone else heard of this?


I hope it's not true. If FIA or CIK stops any on them from competing in a kart race, then that is just plain wrong.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked on the CIK-FIA website, and it lists our US representatives to call and object to this. I would suggest we start with the one in Charlotte: WKA... This reaks not of a licensing issue, but of a political issue!

Here it is straight off the www.cikfia.com website:

"USA* Automobile Competition Committee
for the United States, FIA Inc.
A.C.C.U.S.
7800 S. Elati St., Suite 303
LITTLETON, CO 80120, USA
Tel : (1) 303 730 81 00
Fax : (1) 303 730 81 08
Internet : www.accusfia.us
Email : ncraw@accusfia.us
* Affiliate member: World Karting Association
W.K.A."
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CIK, Cartel of Italian Kart manufacturers has done exactly this kind of thing before and I have no doubt, done it again. In years past, they sent letters to all CIK drivers and threatened to yank thier licences if they raced at the SuperNats. The exact same thing happened this winter during the Winter Tour. A driver from England was threatened with a 6 month suspension. Why do you think Bill got his last events listed on the CIK calander? It was a payoff to the CIK, nothing more.

The CIK does have the power to yank any CIK-FIA driver's international license and I have no doubt they would.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CIK, FIA whatever it's a kart race. They are good at not letting anyone come over and race. Even thou we have to run there rules in a series.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would bet that there are groups here in the States that have run CIK events that would do whatever possible to keep SKUSA from obtaining CIK certification for the SN's. If they can't get all the hype from Scott coming back to race, they wouldn't want anyone else to either. Typical U.S. karting politics. Let's not think about what's good for the sport. If I can't have it-you can't either. Nah nah nah! Twisted Evil

Do the math.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim Pappas wrote:
I would bet that there are groups here in the States that have run CIK events that would do whatever possible to keep SKUSA from obtaining CIK certification for the SN's. If they can't get all the hype from Scott coming back to race, they would want anyone else to either. Typical U.S. karting politics. Let's not think about what's good for the sport. If I can't have it-you can't either. Nah nah nah!

Do the math.

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RIGHT ON THE MONEY Tim!!! (money and egos being the key words)... Another shining example of US karting shooting themselves in the foot and missing a huge exposure opportunity.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one question though. If Scott doesn't race this race, the event itself isn't going to be shutdown and nobody comes, is it? I hope not. While I think it sucks that they won't let the F1 drivers race, after all the hype and everything. I just hope they don't shut the whole race itself down just because those 2 aren't there.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:05 am    Post subject: FIA Reply with quote

Tim Pappas wrote:
I would bet that there are groups here in the States that have run CIK events that would do whatever possible to keep SKUSA from obtaining CIK certification for the SN's. If they can't get all the hype from Scott coming back to race, they wouldn't want anyone else to either. Typical U.S. karting politics. Let's not think about what's good for the sport. If I can't have it-you can't either. Nah nah nah! Twisted Evil

Do the math.

tp


Tim
That is a very strong statement which points in one direction. I doubt your accurate on this. But if your not.....that's scary.

The hype also needs to get out of the breadbox and sent off to 99.9% of America who don't realize karting exists. I would think this would be the job of the promoters and sponsors.
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