Data Acquision Systems???

[Mike Goebel]

If you did the C-Dash system 1 setup with steering, brake, throttle you would be in the 4K + range. That's pretty lame for Karting. Even if you are a god and at the national level. Most people would do fine with lap times. But if your a techno weenie and got the bucks go for it. Of course if your still slow then everybody in the pits will have something to chuckle about.

Mike G.

[Gary Osterholt]

Jon,

I guess what you're saying is that the Pi System 1 has changed alot since that comparsion.

Does Pi offer free software upgrades now? I know when I had my Pi it was 500 dollars per upgrade. And at that time it was still DOS based. And didn't the PI Window Software just come out last year?

As for as the memory, doesn't it cost more money to get the 512k memory. Or has that changed too?

What kind of connectors is the Pi using now? I know when I had it was the little orange blocks. Which was a pain.

It everything you say is true, it looks like Pi has made they product better. But what's the price?

Gary Osterholt
www.garyosterholt.com

[Dale Nickos]

I do have to say that 1500 vs 4000 is a pretty easy comparason to make. Like I said im pretty biased towards PI but I am running MyChron. If the drack used a better display, I don't think there would be much of a decision.

[Erik Frank]

What about the Stack Dash/Kart Logger Systems?

How does it compare to the Pi/Mychron/Drack stuff? I've always liked the integrated display on the Stack, and I like the analog tach, too. According to the Stack website, the features of the stack would appear equal to its competitors. However, it also appears very pricey as compared to the Drack. Can anyone comment?

-erik

[Steve Clark]

Is anyone using the Alfano Pro.

[Jon Miles]

I agree with everything Dale and Mike have said. I prefer Pi's quality but for most karters it is overkill and too expensive. With my underpowered YZ80 my own team chuckles at me.

Gary, yes they have upgraded the System 1 since that comparison, that's why I was pointing out that a lot of what AIM was saying is not correct. The Windows software did come out last year and I believe it is $200 to upgrade from a DOS version. There is a point upgrade coming out in the next few weeks that I have been told will be no charge. 512k memory has been standard since last year. The logger still uses the orange blocks which I don't find to be a problem. I can remove my logger in about 2 minutes if I needed to move it to another kart. AIM says the sensors connect to the block, they don't. They plug into leads that are connected to the block and can be changed easily.

I just wanted to point out to anyone reading that comparison that a lot of what they are saying is either no longer true or never was.

Erik, neither Stack's Dash-1 or Dash-2 can mount on a steering wheel so I think it would be very hard to read on the track. The Dash-1 only displays RPM. The Dash-2's prices are right up there with Pi if not a little higher. If you like the integrated setup and don't want to mount it on the steering wheel look at a Pi System 2. It has a cool bar graph tach like the high end Pi systems and is cheaper/easier to install than a System 1/C-dash.

[ July 30, 2001: Message edited by: Jon Miles ]

[Gary Kozuma1]

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Originally posted by Steve Clark:
Is anyone using the Alfano Pro.

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Steve, you should start a new thread. The Al Pro is not in the same league.

Gary K.

[Dave Embry]

BUT....how many people are having problems with Mychron2 and/or Drack with the CR80's? I've heard a lot are.

We took our Mychron2 off our KT100 (which by the way it had worked flawlessly for almost 2 years) and put it on the 80cc. It will only work for about 1/2 of 1 practice day before going haywire. I have sent it back to Aim 3 times now and just got back from regional SKUSA race last night and packed it up again to send in.

I don't hear others saying they're having problems with them on 125's....just the 80's. I think maybe the new EVO3 would be better. Anyone out there using them on 80's with good or bad results?

PS. By the way....Aimsports has always had EXCELLENT customer service with very quick turnaround.

[kgimpert]

To make everything easy for everyone, AIM Sports products are the best bang for the buck, but you do get what you pay for. If you buy the best, its always cheaper in the end because long after the price is forgotten, the quality still remains.

P.I. manufactures world class products that are used in the highest professional leagues of motorsport. Some people may think its an overkill for shifter kart racing when you can buy a system from AIM for about 1-3k less, but the quality and durability of a P.I. system is way beyond that of a My-Chron PRO or a Drack system. In my opinion, AIM's products aren't even in the same league as P.I.

Everyone's opinion's on P.I.'s support is correct, but if you were the one buying a Acquision System that is 3-4k wouldn't you expect to know what your doing? In all my years dealing with P.I. I've never had a problem or misunderstanding with them. They've always had shipments to myself made on schedule.

I have owned both a My-Chron and a My-Chron II and I've had my share of problems. The manufacturing of the sensors and port connectors is poor quality. Everything is made out of plastic, almost looks like a toy.

The base price for a P.I. System 1 is $1,490 and is everything you need to get started. I would recommend a P.I. over a AIM product any day, but if you don't have the money, you can't go wrong with a My-Chron PRO or Drack if data acquision is what your looking for.

Kenneth Gimpert Motorsports

[Michael Brookes]

Dave,

I used a mychron on my 80cc shifters before getting a Drack. I never had any problems.

I now have 3 Drack systems for my 80cc shifters, and have not had any problems (other than operator error) over the 3 years that I have been using them.

Someone mentioned that the display was hard to read, My wife or I have had no problems reading the display, unless I am looking behind me at where I have already been, or I am using some old tires that are way out of balance. We also race at night, and the display works great in the dark.

If you get the Drack, or would like to see it in action, just come over to our pit and look me up. I have helped many people with the setup and operator errors during there learning curve, and am happy to do so. Just look me up.

Michael Brookes
Team Interkart
#69 K1 80cc Shifter

[Roger Caddell]

I have been using a Drack system for 3 years and this season it is on a Honda powered 80cc Junior kart.

I have had no problems. I used it all last week at the IKF Shifter nationals without a single problem.

I have also had this Drack on a 250 twin Rotax and several Honda CR125 shifters this year without any problems.

How you install it and set it up via the computer is very important.

Roger Caddell www.andrewcaddell.com www.victorylanedata.com