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Andrew Kidd
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| Rick Blood wrote: | | Wow, the kidds catching on. |
| Mike Goebel wrote: | | Go get em Kidd. Bears smearings. |
Did I just get BOTH of them to agree with me in ONE post?!
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Martin Secrest
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| Tom Jensen wrote: | | If some of you lard butts got some excercise and lost 10 pounds you could pick up a few tenths without having to spend the $700. I'm just saying. No names. |
Hey, excellent idea Tom.
And when we lose the 10 pounds, think how far $700 is gonna go at Pizza Hut.  |
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Scott Woeckener
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Gentlemen: We do not want to come across in advertising our wares here. The point was lubrication. We just want to set the record staight for all those that find themselves looking at the world as STILL being flat.
Charles: The engineers that developed these "Race Specific" Bearings did so to bring karting to the fore front of innovation from what others been raving about for years. These SAME bearings are used by so many in so many hi tech industries not to say to trickle down to racing. Agreed that heat kills horse power and Rpms. However, anyway you look at it. We provide a product that takes that variable (heat binding) out of racing. It levels the playing field for those who can't afford to compete with the deep pockets of their competition. Question: Who else makes a FULL compliment bearing...Thats 360 degrees of ceramic balls with no retainers. NO ONE!
Funny...SwedeTech and the other bearing mfg mentioned here buy them and remarket them as their own. Again, We are NOT here to SELL anything. Use them or not...
It’s the force to recon with…why would so many reading these posts buy the 40 mm and 50mm on a grand national level time and time again. Yet their classes don’t have ANY rules banning them.
Let’s keep to the original post. If you have any indepth questions on the reverse engineering process or curious of the "Secret" on the ID OD principals of how they work. Call us personally anytime!
Scott Woeckener 414-543-0934 www.northstar-ceramicbearings.com |
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Andrew Kidd
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Location: United States, California, Mountain View
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Scott Woeckener wrote: | Gentlemen: We do not want to come across in advertising our wares here. The point was lubrication. We just want to set the record staight for all those that find themselves looking at the world as STILL being flat.
Charles: The engineers that developed these "Race Specific" Bearings did so to bring karting to the fore front of innovation from what others been raving about for years. These SAME bearings are used by so many in so many hi tech industries not to say to trickle down to racing. Agreed that heat kills horse power and Rpms. However, anyway you look at it. We provide a product that takes that variable (heat binding) out of racing. It levels the playing field for those who can't afford to compete with the deep pockets of their competition. Question: Who else makes a FULL compliment bearing...Thats 360 degrees of ceramic balls with no retainers. NO ONE!
Funny...SwedeTech and the other bearing mfg mentioned here buy them and remarket them as their own. Again, We are NOT here to SELL anything. Use them or not...
It’s the force to recon with…why would so many reading these posts buy the 40 mm and 50mm on a grand national level time and time again. Yet their classes don’t have ANY rules banning them.
Let’s keep to the original post. If you have any indepth questions on the reverse engineering process or curious of the "Secret" on the ID OD principals of how they work. Call us personally anytime!
Scott Woeckener 414-543-0934 www.northstar-ceramicbearings.com |
Question: Who needs a full compliment bearing with three hundred and sixty degrees of ceramic balls with no retainers? That's right... NO ONE!
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Rick Blood
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Scott Woeckener wrote: | | why would so many reading these posts buy the 40 mm and 50mm on a grand national level time and time again. Yet their classes don’t have ANY rules banning them. |
If there was a noticeable advantage, they would be banned. It's all about keeping the cost down in karting, not escalating it to the point that nobody can afford it.
Sorry but I want proof. Otherwise it's just some rich daddy spending his money because of a sales pitch..
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Pete Muller
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| Chuck McCue wrote: | Any big names want to step in here?
Speed what do you use?
Pete M.?
Ron White?
Paul(ie) Harakka?
Jim Russell? |
Definitely grease. |
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Pete Muller
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| Rick Blood wrote: | Scott, I admire your dedication and you are right about ceramics in so many areas but I have my doubts about the benefits in a karting application.
Maybe someone could list the engine builders that use them. |
Since probably more 2-cycle engine cases pass through my shop than any other shop in the country (and I install the main bearings in over 99% of them), I can probably answer that question:
NONE of what I would call the nationally prominent engine builders (that I do work for) use ceramic bearings.
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Tom Jensen
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| Martin Secrest wrote: | | Tom Jensen wrote: | | If some of you lard butts got some excercise and lost 10 pounds you could pick up a few tenths without having to spend the $700. I'm just saying. No names. |
Hey, excellent idea Tom.
And when we lose the 10 pounds, think how far $700 is gonna go at Pizza Hut. |
 Especially at the all you can scarf buffet.
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Tom Jensen
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| Scott Woeckener wrote: | | Gentlemen: We do not want to come across in advertising our wares here. We are NOT here to SELL anything. Call us personally anytime! Scott Woeckener 414-543-0934 www.northstar-ceramicbearings.com |
Oh, I believe you.
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Mike Goebel
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| Pete Muller wrote: |
NONE of what I would call the nationally prominent engine builders (that I do work for) use ceramic bearings. |
Come on
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Chuck McCue
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| Pete Muller wrote: | | Chuck McCue wrote: | Any big names want to step in here?
Speed what do you use?
Pete M.?
Ron White?
Paul(ie) Harakka?
Jim Russell? |
Definitely grease. |
Interesting. What do you use? not brand.
Axle Grease?
White Lithium?
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Quinn Anderson
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:55 am Post subject: |
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wow this thread is really getting out of hand(in a good ekartingnews way)
To whomever that asked me what I decided-
I have decided that there are a lot of ways that work to oil your bearings... I am just going to stick with the simplicity of not soaking them and triflowing the crap out of them!(as a few suggested).
Theres no way in hell i would spend 600 dollars on bearings or whatever those are. So much for a cheap form of motorsports.
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Pete Muller
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Chuck McCue wrote: | Interesting. What do you use? not brand.
Axle Grease?
White Lithium? |
Chevron grease especially made for high speed ball bearings.
I can get the part# off the can if it's important... |
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Pete Muller
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike Goebel wrote: | Come on
Mike G. |
Someone asked the question... and I answered. 
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Jamie Webb
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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I use Mobile 1 full sythetic... similar to what Pete has mentioned.
Come on Pete... it's not a big secret anymore... we ALL know that the ceramic bearing is what the "big guys" are using as thier secret weapon!! LOL.
Just an FYI... the 4cycle guys did not buy into it either! (so he moved here) LOL!!
Wow... I am very excited to know that karting is a stepping ladder for me though. I have thought this whole time (13 years) that I was just doing this for fun!! 
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