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Martin Secrest



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2001 10:19 am    Post subject: Money and the entry level karter Reply with quote

Good used, still competitive roller (w/clutch) - $1000
Good used KT100 - $500
Transponder (new) - $200
Driving Suit (new) - $125
Helmet (new) - $250
Starter (used) $125
... and some way to get it all to the track. Throw in a bunch of little things, and you're easily at $2500.

I agree that the KT100's need for rebuild every 4-6 hours is maddening, but for newbies, that interval can usually be stretched to 10-20 hours.
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Jeff Mulvihill Jr



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2001 11:16 am    Post subject: Money and the entry level karter Reply with quote

quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Franz:


Jeff,

Actually, I don't have a point to make here. I have a question, that's all.

I am not refuting that those other costs exist. Of course they do, of course they should be considered when a person is calculating his outlay when entering the sport.

But I am not talking about that part of the equation. I'm not supporting one package over another, nor am I wondering why some people are kept away from the sport.

Engine + chassis = how much for an entry level class?

Jeff



Jeff,
got it... BUT isn't that part of "entry"? Maybe the new guy is shying to all of that too... making "arrive and drive" more attractive.

I would agree on the pricing folks have mentioned here... but for that "price" you can't even start it (buy fuel and oil), work on it (buy tools and a kart stand), drive it (again, no fuel), let alone RACE it. Maybe the "price" needs to include more than just the hardware?
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Dave Stevens



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:09 pm    Post subject: Money and the entry level karter Reply with quote

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Originally posted by Jeff Franz:
But I am not talking about that part of the equation. I'm not supporting one package over another, nor am I wondering why some people are kept away from the sport.


Why would you think it's cost?

I'd say about US$8000, 'cause that's what I paid for mine once all was said and done. After I add an Evo and a full blueprint, it'll be more than 10k. I've seen others that willingly spend US$5000 to US$8000 for new karts, though as you know, used karts are a plenty for a couple grand.

Around here, while there are a great many youngsters involved, a good hunk, perhaps the majority are adults, many of those in the mid 30s to 50s. While entry level pricing may be a factor in getting kids into a kart, us old farts don't have a problem with a few grand or more for a kart.

As Jeff Mullvhill said in a previous post, perhaps there is a problem where people don't know about the sport. I would have startd sooner had I known karting was as available and popular as it is in this area. I'd been driving indoor karts for a couple of years and had no idea that sprinting or road racing happened around here. Had I known, I would have started a few years ago.

I'd add that those that may have been exposed to it, still consider it something kids do, and not a true form of motorsport. I don't know that the price of the kart has that much to do with it.

Dave
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Mike Goebel



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:21 pm    Post subject: Money and the entry level karter Reply with quote

New clutch kart at $2500 complete would get people's attention. No gauges or safety equip.

Mike G.
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Roy Harris



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:58 pm    Post subject: Money and the entry level karter Reply with quote

Hi Jeff,

I think your question has a wide range of answers because there is a wide range of equipment that can be included, anywhere from a 4 cycle dirt kart to an ICE kart.
Personal finances also play a role as $7,500 for a new shifter would be a bargain for some people but $2,500 for a used clutch kart might be unattainable to some one else.
I think you have to include all the minimum requirements to race with in the initial cost because just a chassis and motor are not going to get you on the track. Safety gear if you don't have it needs to be accounted for.

In my personal experience I paid $2,800 for a year old Margay chassis with a used KT-100 ( first bore size ), starter, helmet, gloves, neck colar, and a fuel jug. (price included shop labor to mount bigger seat and put everything together since I had no clue). Anything less and I wouldn't have been able to race, everything else I have bought over time.
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Charlie Tackett



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2001 10:35 pm    Post subject: Money and the entry level karter Reply with quote

An extremely basic beginner/intro class (Can Yamaha/HPV), around $2500-2700 at most. A more advanced/technical intro class, $3500-4000 (Max/stock 80 shifter)
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