Dont need a seal now what?

S C Kannie · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:17 am Post subject: Dont need a seal now what?

As I look over the rules of WKA, SKUSA, TAG ect…they all say you don’t need a seal or passport.

For RMC you have to have a seal on your motor now what.

Will this help or hurt? ROTAX

james bremner · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:25 am Post subject:

oh boy hrere we go again
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Andy Seesemann · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:27 am Post subject:

SC,

It depends on where you want to race.

The sealed ROTAX is required for RMC competition. If a competitor likes the RMC concept and wants a shot at the Nationals and Worlds, etc, he leaves the seal on.

If a competitor wants to go race TaG he can still do it with a sealed motor. In fact, I believe a sealed ROTAX gets a free pass through motor tech. Obviously, there will be other tech, such as carb, etc., but as far as pulling the head and cylinder for inspection, the seal will relieve the competitor of that burden.

If the competitor wants to cut that seal and do his own topends, etc, he can do that, too. Although, I hate that argument against the ROTAX, because the majority of TaG participants are new karters. A lot of these guys don't understand carb tuning, or how gearing works. Yet, somehow, all these guys are going to do their own motor work.

In my opinion, I think that a sealed ROTAX is a pretty good option. With the seal, you can race RMC. If you want to race TaG, you can change a couple of carburetor jets and needle and go race TaG. If you have the seal, your motor doesn't get torn down at the end of the day.

You have the best of both worlds.

If you don't like ROTAX, so be it. Please don't get on this thread and bash it. Come buy a Leopard and go race TaG. I'll help you, too.

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S C Kannie · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 4:07 pm Post subject:

Andy

I found out with SKUSA if you are in the top five seal or no seal they will open you up and reseals is at your expence.

I did some checking the Seal is no free pass any more.

Glenn Holland · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:09 pm Post subject:

SC, where are you hailing from?

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Marshall Martin · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:24 pm Post subject:

SC

If your SKUSA Region is not going to recognize the seal as a tech motor them please have your Region Director contact me or send me his information. In the conversations I have had with Stan Brynarski of SKUSA I was under the impression that they would recognize the seal as part of the tech procedure. If I am incorrect I need to know and contact Stan again.
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S C Kannie · Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:58 am Post subject:

I was sent this from a SKUSA member:

The seal will only be removed if you are in the top 5, thus being opened up for inspection, SKUSA will not be held accountable for the reseal, this will be done at your expense. Keep in mind if you run skusa all year you will not have to have the seal.
> Marty Casey

And this is what he got as a reply he also he said you dont need a seal to be a part of TAG USA.

Bottom line no more free passes just because you have a seal & a passport.

If that is true then how do we get engine parts, what about Rotax motors Im told come from all over the world is that true.

Marshall Martin · Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:40 am Post subject:

SC

I will contact Stan and Marty to see if we can get something worked out.

Only motors purchased and registered in the US are allowed to compete in the USRMC series, Mexico and South American official Rotax events. Each country in the world that runs a official RMax Series follows the same for their country. The purpose is to protect each indvidual countries dealers. What other series do is up to them. But if you have a motor in the US that came from an outside source you will not be able to compete in any US Rotax event.
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S C Kannie · Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:58 am Post subject:

Thank you.

So if we dont enter any Rotax challenge event we can rebuild our rotax just like all the other engines to spec?

And people can run any Rotax engine we want no matter what country it has come from?

If this is true then you can refresh a Rotax at the track if you have the parts and meet spec.

Then pay a dealer a fee to reseal your engine before a Rotax event and you would be ok.

Or Im I missing something

Thanks

Wesley Shelton · Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:15 am Post subject:

S C,

I was in a SKUSA event three weeks ago and finished fifth. Due to a sudden down pour of rain, I did not get inspected. I did watch the top three get theirs however, and the seal was not touched. In Florida, SKUSA is racing only Rotax, and not TaG, so I don't know if it would be different in Wisconsin. But, in Florida, we're "keeping it real" with the seal.......Hey, I think I just found a new slogan. Idea