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Chuck McCue
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 Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: EasyKart in TAG |
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| Michael Suda wrote: | Does this mean that the "EasyKart IAME 125" engine can be used on any chasis? Where can one buy the engine package alone and what is the approximate price?
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Looks like you can use the entire package or the motor package alone. You can buy the package from any Easykart dealer. See below from the Easykart website, As pictured ( starter box, battery extra.)
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Anthony Levy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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It's pretty simple debate you guys are having. My assesment would be, when running in a Tag class the Easykart is a Tag and change the axle or whatever to whatever is allowed. It is still an Easykart,,,, just modified a bit for the Tag Series. However,,,, when running in a Easykart only event it had better have all the Easykart parts back on it. So,,,,,,, it is both! Easykart rules are only for Easykart events. 
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Dennis Garwood
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Is anybody doing an arrive and drive for the Easykart for Stars East this year? Are any of the dealers putting together a team for this years Stars competition? I am interested in both. |
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Rob Linders
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Chuck or any easykart dealer.
It looks like that is a needle jet type carb and not a main jet type carb like a Del Orto, is that correct?
How many hours are they getting out of rebuilds on this engine? Is it similar to an HPV?
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Chuck McCue
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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The Carb is a Tillotson HL series Carb., very common in the karting industry. However, the main jet is fixed not a needle. There are a limited number of jet to choose from which makes tuning easy.
Rebuilds are similar to the HPV, I would not go over 12 hours on the motor. The motor looks similar to the HPV but, they are reed valve not piston port.
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Chad Stapleton
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| Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Chuck McCue wrote: | | The Carb is a Tillotson HL series Carb., very common in the karting industry. However, the main jet is fixed not a needle. There are a limited number of jet to choose from which makes tuning easy. . |
No High or Low needles ????
That is unusual on a Tillotson, but do you know why Chuck ? .....one of the advantages of the Tilly is the ability to finely tune the jets whilst running on the track to optimise performance.
I guess this is an attempt to prevent someone running too lean, but as delorto users know- fixed jets wont prevent all the lean "stick" possibilities.
This is not an improvement in my opinion (for what that is worth !) 
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Mitchell Dixon
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| Wesley Shelton wrote: | | All I can tell you is that the lap times these Easy Karts run at Homestead stack up very well against the Rotax. |
Faster than rotax and faster than some shifters even( not to sound rude)....Easykarts are very fast. At jacksonville the top karts in TAG were easykarts. Although the parts on the easykart are spec, adjustability is still an option which can be explored. I own an easykart and love driving it because it is the type of kart that can be adjusted without confusing rookies. The adjustments that can be made are significant enough that an easykart can still run up front. It is the Driver which creates the ultimate outcome. The easykart is very competitive and the up and coming number 1 choice among those who want to win. Down here in Miami, I know of any easykart engine ran beyond 100 hours without a problem. Past that it may not be as competitive but it still works properly.
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Rob Linders
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| Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| Mitchell Dixon wrote: | | Wesley Shelton wrote: | | All I can tell you is that the lap times these Easy Karts run at Homestead stack up very well against the Rotax. |
Down here in Miami, I know of any easykart engine ran beyond 100 hours without a problem. Past that it may not be as competitive but it still works properly. |
Mitchell,
Are you saying he went 100 hours w/o any rebuilds to the engine? If so, how competitive was he? Is he a front runner and when did the pace drop off?
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John Neilson
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| Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Rob,
What the Easykart formula does in Florida and Stars is run the motor at a respectable rpm. For instance at Moran we could have turned a 83 gear but the decision was to run everybody on 79's to keep the dutycycle down on the motors.
If you run TAG rules, you can run the Easy motor on any chassis with the appropriate tires. You just have to tech the motor. If you rev the motor, you will have to rebuild it more often. No magic in that. What most people do not see is that this is a true racing motor, not some ag pump motor put into kart duty. I impressed with the quality and design of the Iame products so far, Leopard, ICA, HPV and the Easy 125.
As far as the tillotson with jets, I was suspect before running it. Now, no problem, it is a very well balanced carb setup. The lowspeed needle is can be closed as it has a bypass that simulates about 1 1/2 open. The main transition is good and the jets available are correctly suited for the task.
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Mitchell Dixon
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| Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Rob Linders wrote: | | Mitchell Dixon wrote: | | Wesley Shelton wrote: | | All I can tell you is that the lap times these Easy Karts run at Homestead stack up very well against the Rotax. |
Down here in Miami, I know of any easykart engine ran beyond 100 hours without a problem. Past that it may not be as competitive but it still works properly. |
Mitchell,
Are you saying he went 100 hours w/o any rebuilds to the engine? If so, how competitive was he? Is he a front runner and when did the pace drop off?
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Rob |
I do not know of the kart being used of competitively, but it was ran hard for that time. I am almost certain it happened before easykart became known to many. Yes many people do rebuild after about 15 hours to stay up front, im sure it wont hurt much to go beyond that. my motor went about 25 hours before its first rebuild and i was close to the front and still was the same as others in speed and accelleration. I had just started though so i was not at the "front". I was finishing third and running second at one time.
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Eric Chappell
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Angel Figueras
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| Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 2:38 pm Post subject: I must differ.... |
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Mr. Dixon,
I have to differ with your statement that "...Faster than rotax and faster than some shifters even( not to sound rude)....Easykarts are very fast. At jacksonville the top karts in TAG were easykarts. "
I just won the TAG class main event at the Moran Garorz race from the back of the pack (over twenty TAG's). The lead kart was an Easykart very well driven (YGK's) by the winner of the Stars Easykart event at the Moran Stars of Tomorrow weekend. Second place was a Leopard, also VERY well drivne by Axle Korn.
I am on a Rotax. On YGK's I don't believe the EK is significantly faster than a Rotax, Leopard, etc......it's set up and the right day, at this point in the concept of TAG, most packages are closely competitive.
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Cory Pollock
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject: good point |
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Angel,
that was very well put I couldmt of said it better. |
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Steven Quinones
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| Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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First I will point out that my son runs the Rotax Jr. in South Florida and we may also start running the Easy 100 soon.
One thing that Montoya (father) always makes sure to point out to me are the time sheets of the day for Quals with pride. I will say that after reviewing them with him on varoius occasions, in general the Easy karts are faster than the Rotax's. Now weight may have something to do with it, but I don't believe it will make much of a diference.
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Mitchell Dixon
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| Bob Francis wrote: | | my question is why is the easykart air cooled? cost ? when all the new motors today are water cooled. are these just an earlier version of todays TAG motors that the Italians want to get rid of? and will the class be updated to the newer water cooled idea in the future? also I agree with Joe a seperate class would just further dilute the Tag pool and not have much of any benifit. it also seems like the Easykarts are just in the SE U.S. if this is true then a seperate class would have little or no entrys anyw here besides there. Is this a good class ? maybe. is it needed ? doubtful. for those who want one design racing then the Rotax seems to fill that need, and look at all the complaints now about people wanting to work on their own motors. i really don't see this being something new and revolutionary its just another gokart and just a different program, don't we have enough programs? |
im not sure why the easykarts are air-cooled instead of liquid-cooled, but i think easykart is way better and faster than rotax. No, it is not only in the SE, It is WORLDWIDE.It is the TRUE SPEC RACER. yes rotax is a sealed motor, but the chassis is not, contributing to more cost and testing needed. Easykart has everything the same, except for the driver which is great for the "rich and the poor" of racing. Easykart is a great class. Easykart is still relativley new as opposed to rotax and other classes. But in its short time since "birth" look how fast it has grown. This is not a fad. Easykart is here to stay. People only complain about wanting to work on their own motors because with a spec motor they cant win because they might not be able to drive better than those with the same power. Yes, everybody wants that more power than the other guy, but then cheating comes into effect when a motor builder reaches a plateau of power adding/building. Yeah its revolutionary, look how big it has gotten in such a short time. We might have too many programs when looking at certain aspects, but if you are looking at a spec racer class, easykart is the "chosen one" because it is a spec class. If you think of rotax, it seems like just a spec motor class, not a fully spec class. IM NOT TRYING TO SINGLE YOU OUT, JUST CLARIFYING.
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