Which will be the motor to have?

[Erik Kullenberg]

Howie the comedian

[Chuck McCue]

Charles,
Good points. As you know the TaG motors were not originally designed to be national championship race packages. They are more suited amatuer competition such as the view the late Tom Argy had, which was a "festival" type regional and national race which was more for fun than the F1 bound ICA/ICA racers. Pick a motor and go drive!
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Chuck McCue

[Eli Yanko]

has any one tried the Biland?
Spill the beans
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Eli Yanko
The Russian Rocket 70r

[Mitchell Dixon]

i run an IAME, it it f****in' pulls outta the corner and all the way 'til redline. from about 4500 rpm it feels like a shifter and it just about as fast. my setup is almost the same as a tag but i run an aircooled engine as appossed to some that may be liquid cooled... but the iame engine ROCKS! ive seen the biland run and its not really that fast but i heard it was pretty reliable. [/i]
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"I am not afraid, I was born to do this."

-Joan of Arc

[Spencer Bunting]

I'll be trying out a Rotax next year.

Hopefully the weight advantage will help me out. First year in competition karting though, so I need to work on my driving first.

[Harvey Williams]

I am running the easykart 125 heavy. I'm very impressed with the package so far. I have over 9 hrs run time including one race day on the air cooled IAME. Havent had any problems. Knock on wood!

[Marc Elliott]

IAME, its powerfull, reliable, nationwide arrry of parts, easy to maintain, can do your own engine maintanace, exhaust tuning is easy, on the go carburetor tuning, easy to setup the engine, good power curve from 7500-15500, can rev to 17000 with no trouble, and its clean, self charging, little motor

my 2 cents, the price is great too
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www.california4strokeracing.com
Vampire-Oral 4-Stroke Engines

[John Denman]

[Joe Woronka]

[John Denman]

[charles pistorio]

john, is it a secret?? the rules posted on here a couple days ago are incomplete

http://tagracing.net/rules/index.html


joe,
it does say ital carb but no model # 2jet 3jet i have some ital carbs at home can i run those.?

i will make it to beaverun a couple times this year and i hope some of you guys will make it to www.racewaypark.com

eli, i saw a biland running. i cant say im much for 4 strokes but it sounded pretty cool, i thought there was a quad on the track
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Charles Pistorio
Tore Motorsports, Inc.

[Kimi Yasumoto]

Howie - Sometime ago I was asked to do a research on the "TAG" engines. So here some informations I collected. All the engines will run slightly different in different tracks but generally after having driven most of them this what I can see (my opinion):

Biland - Very good bottom end - fast and consistant. To my opinion the initial cost and the maintainace could be a factor as it is a 4T, however do not know yet. It surely can be upfront, especially if run at ideal temp.

Leopard - good bottom, good top. Easy to handle. This is probably the most popular package right now. Only negative to my opinion is the carburator and some details. This package also is a front runner as seen in Vegas.

Sonik - The only engine is the VX 125. similar to the Leopard and can be driven (but does not have to be) very hard. Carburator and Ignition of grat quality. Great performance. As above, can be upfront. Slightly higher price compared to Leopard, but justified once seen side by side.

BM - It is basically a sort of Leopard, made by IAME for their France correspondant. As mentioned is similar to a Leopard. Price is less - I do not know why, but performance is as good.

ITALSISTEM- It is a special type of animal. It is real good but hard to get and to manage as it requires specialized knowledge. I do not know who is handling it here in US.

Vortex RoK - Never driven. I'm sure is up to similar standards - or better - as above, given the name of Vortex. I heard (so it is a second hand concept) that the concept of performance is closer to the Rotax compared to the other ones. I'm sure the importer will have all the infos needed.

Comer - No info on this. Again, given the experience of Comer the engine should be good. I'm sure importer will have related infos.

All the companies involved and all the brands looks like they are getting pretty good in regards to stock of engines and parts. So I'm pretty sure the market it is getting ready. Will also have to see the rules......

I believe that (as usual) good chassis tuning and good driver will make good results. In some tracks a stronger bottom end will get a package upfront, and viceversa in tracks that are longer and quicker with fast turns a good mid -top end will help. I hope "rulers" will keep weight under control as too much of it will not do good. In Europe average weight for such class is 360 lbs.

With similar weight limits (330-335 lbs), consider that many of these engines are able (if properly driven) to get VERY close to lap times generated by ICA. So they are quite performing - but with an easier management and longer life.

[joseph hollinger]

[Kimi Yasumoto]

It really depends on the drivers. If you have a Stars driver like Glover or Pecorari and give him a TAG at 330 lbs - times will be very close (not better, but close) to ICA.
With an amateur driver on TAG and an expert driver as above on ICA 3 seconds is quite correct.

That was however just meant to indicate that TAG engines are quite performing - as they are definitly not comparable to ICAs for many things. The nicest part of the TAG deal is the great performance with much smaller maintainance and cost.

[mark rommel]

Can someone comment on Leopard vs. Rotax?