Which will be the motor to have?

Howie Idelson · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:11 am Post subject: Which will be the motor to have?

If you were going to race TAG, which motor would you want and why.
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scott bertken · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:20 am Post subject:

FOR ME ITS THE TAG 125 LEOPARD THE CLASSES HERE IN THE VALLEY ARE VERY STRONG AND YOU DONT GET BETTER BY RUNNING ONLY 4 OR 5 IN A CLASS ITS FUN AND VERY LOW MAINTENANCE Laughing

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Kim Le Baron · Joined: 17 Oct 2002 Posts: 49

First Big THANKS to the EKN for the new forum!!

Now for what motor ? I am running the new Sonik VX125 , I like like the way the motor works. It pulls hard out of the corners and rev's very well. I ran a BM Jag . motor last year and I like this better but I may be a bit bias on this subject.

Kim Le Baron
MotoKart LLC

Karit/Corsa
Sonik VX 125

Howie Idelson · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:58 am Post subject:

Are there two Sonik motors? if so, which one is better? What about the IAME? Why wouldn't the Biland stomp everything? Anyone run the Saetta?I need to know these things.
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Scotty NIELSEN · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:06 am Post subject: Nice job!

Way to go EKN Exclamation

Nice to add this forum to the others and although I run a ROTAX, will check here for the opinions and (hopefully) GOOD INFORMATION on the various motors...
and the PLUSES & MINUSES

to each...
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Mike Foster · Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Posts: 64

Last year I ran a ROTAX, I just started running a BM 120 Jaguar.
The power band on the BM is much smoother then the ROTAX.
The big differece is the RPM's.,17,000 on the BM vs 13,900 on the ROTAX,"what a sound!".WOOO Surprised

I am looking forword to the up coming season.

Kim Le Baron · Joined: 17 Oct 2002 Posts: 49

Howie, Sonik only makes one 125 tag motor the VX 125. Sonik also makes a ICA, JRICA motor and is working on a Jr tag motor aswell.

Kim Le Baron
MotoKart LLC

Karir /Corsa

Sonik VX125

Axel Korn · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:07 pm Post subject:

Thanks EKN! I appreciate the new Forum.

Howie... I chose a Leopard. Support, parts, information all seem to be relatively available. Cost of parts and service is not too expensive. So far its been reliable without any problems. I think it will probably be middle of the road and not extreme on the bottom (Biland) or the top (Sonik). It seems to be pretty fast compared to the times I have seen at some of the tracks. But that is all subjective because I have not yet raced against the others under the same conditions.

Several things still unknown. The Sonik does have serious top end. However if the weights come out and the penalty is somewhat high, I don't know how it will stack up against the rest. I'll have to wait until the rules are finalized.

First few races will be very interesting.

Chuck McCue · Joined: 17 Jul 2001 Posts: 2944

"Anyone run the Saetta?"

The rotary power (over 50 hp) of the Saetta could not be handicapped enough to be thrown in with the TaG's. So far we have been happy with the Easy125, Leopard and look forward to the new Rok. May the best motor win!
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Howie Idelson · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:41 pm Post subject:

Chuck, Have you had the Saetta on a kart? I'd love to hear about it. Also what about the ROK do you think is going to make the motor to have.
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Steve Rickman · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:47 pm Post subject:

We're using the ROK also, I did some testing with the CRG factory when I was in Italy and the motor was quick. Our driver was running some very fast times for that particular track. There has been a slight modification to the exhaust pipe which has added some performance to the engine over last year. However you can modify last years pipe to the new spec so you dont have to worry if you have last years engine.

Steve R

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Scott Haynes · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:27 pm Post subject:

How can I tell what pipe I have and if I have the old one how do I modify it?

Steve Rickman · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:40 pm Post subject:

If your pipe measures out to 835cm from the end that goes to the header to the other end where the silencer u bend mounts then remove 3 cm from the flange that goes over the header.

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Steve
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Rhonda Mims-Brown · Joined: 09 Aug 2001 Posts: 538

Howie - you disappoint me...why didn't you title this TaG or Rotax?

LOL Laughing

Hope you all enjoy you own place to dwell in safety and thanks so much for visiting EKN.

charles pistorio · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:06 pm Post subject:

all the motors have there good points but i think sone of the biggest deciding factors for some people is the weights of the class for any particular motor.
the tag usa rules are just plain incomplete. all the motors arent fully spec'd as to what stock is
what carb is oem on a sonik comer and ital??
what air box is oem for them? what is the min cc for some of the engines? you couldnt do tech from the i saw

i guaranty the weights will change once the engines are tested fully

so for a guy that weighs 150 he would never want an engine that you would need to weigh in at 390 and the same for the opposite situation
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