Honda CR125 - What else for I need to make it run?

Jim McMahon · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:47 am Post subject:

Casar you are driving me nuts LOL. Do you have a running motor or not? If you want to go stock moto pick any one of the used packages on the classifieds. They are basically half price motors. Otherwise, if the club will let you run it (they probably will until you start beating people) why dont you pickup try and pickup a motor for $1200-500ish that doesnt quite meet the spec of the 99-01 "Stock Moto" to get some experience.
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Michael Boone · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:29 am Post subject:

The first Stock HONDA I've seen in France! Razz

Cheap! 600€ complete with chassis Wink

And you wonder why we run KZ's Razz

http://www.leboncoin.fr/sports_hobbies/377435173.htm?ca=18_s

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Cesar Rull · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:29 am Post subject:

no I do not have a motor yet. I have been learning a ton form the posts on this thread. I really appreciate the help.

I was going to buy a broken 2004 and I realized that they are very different motors from the 99-2002. Not to mention it may cost me a ton to money to rebuild it and get it running - and it may not work well after ?

I am thinking unfortunately at this point I am just going to buy a motor from one of the online shops and keep saving money to finish the kart... the high price tags are a bit discouraging...

John Matthews · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:03 am Post subject:

If you think the cost of equipment is excessive then I'd seriously re-think the whole thing. Racing is not a cheap hobby no matter what....

Most racers will tell you it costs far more to actually get to the track, maintain the kart, pay entry fees, and do repairs than what the kart/engine costs.

If you're worried about costs Cesar do what so many of us have already told you to do. Get a low power engine and learn how to drive first.

Cheers,
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Greg Wright · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:07 am Post subject:

joseph hollinger · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:30 am Post subject:

Cesar Rull · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:58 am Post subject:

... you guys are beating a dead horse... its going to be a shifter or nothing. I would've done DD2 but they are not run down here.

Brian Degulis · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:09 am Post subject:

First to all you experienced guys that are taking the time to educate novices like Ceaser and myself thanks it's apreciated. Even though it may get a little frustrating when good advice is not followed remember your not talking to one your talking to many. I understand Ceasers point of view I've driven TAG DD2 and Shifter a novice to all and I relize that TAG is the best starting point. That being said the shifter sure is fun. Not everyone wants to be a competetive or at least not right away. If we do it intelligantly and practice and learn before jumping into competion there is nothing wrong with that as long as we understand our limitations and don't become a menace.

Cearsar you can go PRD tag and get the complete kit to mount on your kart brand new for around $1500.

There is a logic in buying the conversions parts and a cheap good running engine that may not be leagal to get started. The investment in the conversion parts is not lost if you move on to a better engine.

Brian

Cesar Rull · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:13 am Post subject:

Ha Brian whose side are you on?

John Matthews · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:02 pm Post subject:

It's still not gonna be cheap....

Even if someone gave you the engine for free you will have far exceeded the cost of a new engine in tires, fuel, oil, transportation, and repairs within a few months if you're driving on a regular basis. Anyone who wants to stay in the hobby will need to look at all the costs required to first get competitive, and then keep up once they're running at a reasonable level. Guys like me who have run, or currently do run kart shops really, really want people who get into the hobby to stay in it for a long time. It makes good business sense and it's also a lot more fun for everyone involved. We know we're not just talking to the OP in cases like this, lots of other folks just read what's posted. I get questions fairly regularly from people who've read things I posted years ago, what you say online can live for a long, long time.

If you want the cheapest option for equipment buy a complete package (kart, motor, tools, stand, trailer, etc.) from somebody just like yourself that wanted to get into the sport by starting at the top. There are always plenty of these on the market, sometimes priced ridiculously low because the owner is going through a divorce....

Bottom line, it takes a lot of money and even more dedication to go racing. The only thing you will accomplish by trying to piece a package together yourself with absolutely no experience is to frustrate yourself and anyone else who's trying to help you.

I'm not trying to be negative here, or rain on your parade but when several hundred combined years of racing experience doesn't help I'm not sure what will. Please look back at these threads in a few years and see how it looks to you after a couple hundred hours track time.

Enjoy,
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Stu Hayner · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:48 pm Post subject: Shifter karts

"If there was a rule that EVERY new karter HAD to drive 50 gal of fuel through a 100cc kart before they were allowed to drive a 125, karting would be 10 times more popular than what we have going on now. We wouldn't see all these "like new" TAGS and shifters for sale at less than half of what that "New Guy" paid a few months (weeks) before. "
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Ryon Beachner · Advertiser Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 344

Karting is relatively inexpensive racing.

Not to be confused with cheap.
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Cesar Rull · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:50 pm Post subject:

don't get me wrong, my road bicycle is 6K that is cheap compared to what other guys ride. But Still...

Brian Degulis · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:53 pm Post subject:

Your advice would be beyond dispute if it were going to someone who wants to get into racing ASAP. Not everyone wants that and everyones diffrent in all respects. I've met lots of guys that started in shifters played around and practiced some for years then got into racing. I was advised over and over to go TAG. I'm glad I went DD2 because I'm having a blast with it and my times get better every time I practice. (almost on par). Now that I've got a shifter and experienced it I'll probably wish I had done that first. In any case I'm learning like crazy and having a blast. So what's wrong with that?

Brian

Cesar Rull · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:36 pm Post subject:

^ [LIKE]

I would even say that all those new 2nd hand TAG and Shifters are from people who jumped right into racing and did not have the opportunity to build the skills. There is also something call Time and work. Sometimes people get busy and cannot make it out to the track anymore.