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Keith Buffo
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Clark, believe me, I had a great time on the full course, and was glad WKC gave me the opportunity to run it. And it was a smart strategy to use "new" to attract some extra entries.
I'm in a TaG. Personally, I prefer the North Course with its high-speed turn up the hill and blind apex at the top. Flying over the crest of that thing is a challenge...but one that is satisfying to get right.
In contrast, while I loved the entry to the Oak Tree, the exit made it one of those frustrating turns that is so out of sync with the rest of the track that getting through it perfectly still feels pretty crappy. To me the full course gives up the best turns to add a couple of huge not very challenging straightaways and an irritating corner. Not worth the money in my opinion... I'd rather see those funds go toward getting us back on Thunderbolt.
As always, WKC put on a great show. I'm very much looking forward to Summit.
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Jim Fry
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| Fry Racing is w/Keith on this one. While the full course was fun to do for the first time since the late 60's, the North Course's "high-speed turn up the hill and blind apex at the top" is a 'hold your breath' moment in a Controlled Laydown every lap. |
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Brian Wilhelm
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Location: United States, Arkansas,
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:58 am Post subject: Full |
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For myself and Mitch White, we have no interest in running the North Course. You can call it what you want, but we very much enjoyed the esses up the hill, Oak Tree, and the back straight.
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David Cole
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Location: United States, Michigan, Comstock Park
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Full |
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| Brian Wilhelm wrote: | | For myself and Mitch White, we have no interest in running the North Course. You can call it what you want, but we very much enjoyed the esses up the hill, Oak Tree, and the back straight. |
That's because you can't drive...and they posted the picture to prove it  
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Tony Isgrig
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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Location: United States, Missouri, Kansas City
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Wow ! Cole fired the first shot ! Let's see - how many wins at Road America, Daytona, KART Nationals.............
I can say for a fact - in my 8 years helping Brian at the track, that is only
two of three 'offs' that I have seen Brian be part of. He had a LOT of help with the 1st one Saturday at VIR !! Holy smokes - bent bumper, silencer, pipe. What a ride !! |
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Steve Matotan
Joined: 01 Oct 2002
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Location: United States Minor Outlying Islands, Albuquerque
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Brian went off the course - so what. He probably got back on and then lapped that 250. Besides, that may not even be Brian driving....lol |
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Martin Secrest
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Having run all three I probably like the full course best, but I wonder if it is really worth much extra money over the North course, which also has its charms.
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Martin Secrest
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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By the way I had the pleasure of pitting for the first time next to the Isgrig/Wilhelm/White team, and they are some true southern gentlemen. Thanks for supporting our race and making the long haul from R-Kansas...
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jEREMY bALDI
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve Matotan wrote: | | Brian went off the course - so what. He probably got back on and then lapped that 250. Besides, that may not even be Brian driving....lol |
He did not get back on a lap that 250. That pic was from the unlimited 1 race and the off turned his water pump off and blew his motor. However, he did get punted off in the f-125 race all the way to the trees and than get back on to make up 30 secs to pass me on the last lap for 2nd place. So yeah still pretty good.
And if I had my choice between any VIR layout and NJMP thunderbolt I would go for thunderbolt. That track was a blast and had awesome rhythm.
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Linda Baldus
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:47 am Post subject: |
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It does do us all good to see that even Brian Wilhelm goes off-track occasionally too!
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Brian Wilhelm
Joined: 18 Jul 2001
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Location: United States, Arkansas,
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| jEREMY bALDI wrote: | | Steve Matotan wrote: | | Brian went off the course - so what. He probably got back on and then lapped that 250. Besides, that may not even be Brian driving....lol |
He did not get back on a lap that 250. That pic was from the unlimited 1 race and the off turned his water pump off and blew his motor. However, he did get punted off in the f-125 race all the way to the trees and than get back on to make up 30 secs to pass me on the last lap for 2nd place. So yeah still pretty good.
And if I had my choice between any VIR layout and NJMP thunderbolt I would go for thunderbolt. That track was a blast and had awesome rhythm. |
It's a long frickin' way out to the trees, I can tell you for sure. I couldn't even see the track.
I did talk to Mike Lattos last night (the guy that lost his brakes and punted me), and the Dr. does not think his foot is broken, so that's good.
As for you and your smart-assery Mr. Cole, I must say there were a couple of times this weekend I was wondering if I could drive......... 
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Brian Wilhelm
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| Linda Baldus wrote: | | It does do us all good to see that even Brian Wilhelm goes off-track occasionally too! |
Yup, when I do it, I do it big!
A BIG thanks to Tony and Mitch for helping out with the motor swap and a big cleanup on Saturday night. Red dirt, sand, and gravel makes the kart a little gritty. My wife calls it "Ag racing". 
It was a pleasure to meet you Martin, and so many others that stopped by to introduce themselves and say hi. We like how you guys operate over there.
If you are ever over this way, your need to try one of our KART events, I think you would enjoy it.
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