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Rob Miller
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For this to happen it takes racers like Don who have stepped up big but we can all help. If most of us would just pledge the cost of 5 gallons of racing fuel the goal is achieved. Some can afford to pledge the amount equivalent the price of one set of race tires which means that we get there faster.
This a unique opportunity for kart racers to help promote and grow our sport. |
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scot smith
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Location: United States, New York, lake george
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:20 am Post subject: I am in. |
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| Pledged $250. Cant wait, we need a track up here in the northeast, I hope this helps. I am new to karting and it is my new favorite thing in the world to do. HAHA |
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John Shofner
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:31 am Post subject: Re: I am in. |
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| scot smith wrote: | | Pledged $250. Cant wait, we need a track up here in the northeast, I hope this helps. I am new to karting and it is my new favorite thing in the world to do. HAHA |
Thanks so much Scot, I hope there are more out there that will get involved. Almost 800 thread views, yet 40 backers, where are we losing the rest of you guys?
Speak up and let me know what I can do to get you guys involved!
Thanks! |
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Rob Howden
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First off, I want to thank the people who have gotten behind the 'Become One' documentary project thus far. This is going to be an important piece of media for the future growth of karting.
To address what John just said, I think people need to understand the true road that we'll take to reach the target funding goal for this project. Yes, it would be kick-butt to has 40 people step up with $1000 each to get it done, and I'm sure that could easily happen in this community, but it likely won't.
What would be the second option would be to have 400 karters pledge $100. Now that doesn't seem that hard, does it. That's less than 80% of the racers who ran the SuperNationals last year.
What I'm trying to say is that just because all you can pledge is somewhere between $25-$100, please don't think that its any less important than the karter who has the ability to support this important work with $1000. Every little bit counts and it all adds up.
Yes, there were 800 views of this thread....and it they all pledged just $10, it would be $8000. The key is this...PLEDGE....even if it's just $10, it will help.
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Howie Idelson
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While it's great to have a film done on karting, I'm not seeing anything on what story is being told. For a film, any film to be compelling, successful it needs to tell a story that people relate to and get behind. All I see here is nice camera work and editing. We're all karters and love to see racing. What about the rest of the world who I'm guessing this project is targeting? After 2 minutes of karts running and music playing - they're done. They need a hero, a villan, an obstacle to overcome, to relate to. I'm not seeing that here or in the kickstarter prospectus. A film with out a story is not worth the investment.
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Volker Krahn
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Location: Germany, not USA state, Hanover
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Rob Miller wrote: |
This a unique opportunity for kart racers to help promote and grow our sport. |
That's right and this is also my opinion. Karting needs this. Good Luck John and I hope you can founding this project.
I'm in. Pledged $ 101.00 
Best regards from Germany |
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John Shofner
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Howie Idelson wrote: | | While it's great to have a film done on karting, I'm not seeing anything on what story is being told. For a film, any film to be compelling, successful it needs to tell a story that people relate to and get behind. All I see here is nice camera work and editing. We're all karters and love to see racing. What about the rest of the world who I'm guessing this project is targeting? After 2 minutes of karts running and music playing - they're done. They need a hero, a villan, an obstacle to overcome, to relate to. I'm not seeing that here or in the kickstarter prospectus. A film with out a story is not worth the investment. |
Thanks Howie, its good to get some feedback. I do understand what you are saying about the lack of a main plot line with a hero and a villain. But that in itself doesn't explain karting, that tells the story of a driver or a team over the course of a season or so.
That simply is not my goal with the Become One project. I don't want to highlight any one person or rivalry for the plot of this film. I want people on the out side to discover karting and people on the inside to relate. I want to tell the story of a family that fights together weekend after weekend and the way it strengthens bonds. I want to explain what different karts there are and what certain drivers like about the different classes. Show that its a sport where kids can find motivation to stay on the right path in school and in life to continue doing something that they love. And also to show that karting can be incredibly exciting and that you guys are fleeting real machines that have high tolerances and take alot of skill and understanding to drive.
One of the main issues I had when telling strangers about the films that I was making, before they had the chance to see them, was that they didn't take the sport very seriously at all. Often getting responses like, "How can some Go-Kart guys afford to take you to Vegas to shoot video for them?" It just isn't recognized as a serious sport to the general masses. That's what I aim to change as much as I possibly can.
I'd also like to show people how they themselves can get into the sport and start competing. Because they should, its a hell of a sport that is amazing amounts of fun to be a part of.
People start life long relationships with other drivers and kart shops and sponsors within karting.
These are the stories I want to tell. That is how I want to show karting. Hero's and villains in movies and documentary's are a dime a dozen to be completely honest. And hard working kids and families and even older guys that still come out and lay it out every weekend are the ones that deserve to have their stories told.
Thanks again Howie, I hope this helps you understand my direction.  |
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John Shofner
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:39 pm Post subject: Pledging |
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Move FAQ's to first post so they'll be more effective.
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Howie Idelson
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John,
A couple of things. When I said Hero, Villan, Obstacle i was speaking figuratively - meaning that there were people or situations in the story that you relate to with some emotion. I think your post is a good step in explaining that there are stories to be told in the documentary. I didn't see that in the kickstarter proposal. Maybe if there was a synopses of the story you're promising to tell, it would be easier to get behind the project. I love the idea of a karting documentary. I think your camera work and editing is awesome for the sport and shows it visually in a way it hasn't been yet. You owe it to your effort to have a concise story arc to follow just like any good documentary.
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John Shofner
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| Howie Idelson wrote: | John,
A couple of things. When I said Hero, Villan, Obstacle i was speaking figuratively - meaning that there were people or situations in the story that you relate to with some emotion. I think your post is a good step in explaining that there are stories to be told in the documentary. I didn't see that in the kickstarter proposal. Maybe if there was a synopses of the story you're promising to tell, it would be easier to get behind the project. I love the idea of a karting documentary. I think your camera work and editing is awesome for the sport and shows it visually in a way it hasn't been yet. You owe it to your effort to have a concise story arc to follow just like any good documentary. |
Yes, I see what you're saying for sure. My only issue in that is we will be going to live events and sometimes stories find ways of happening right in front of you in ways that you did not nor could not expect. I was hoping that people would understand my general premise and invest in my and my team's personal ability as well as my want to promote the sport. We are right now constantly searching for appropriate candidates for this role. But we will also be finding them as we arrive and the weekends progress.
I will be sure to get on the Project Board and move some things around as you've suggested.
Thanks so much Howie, I hope you standing up and giving me some feedback to answer and clarify helps other backers that have had the same questions understand the direction. Its key to this projects success. |
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John Shofner
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| Volker Krahn wrote: | | Rob Miller wrote: |
This a unique opportunity for kart racers to help promote and grow our sport. |
That's right and this is also my opinion. Karting needs this. Good Luck John and I hope you can founding this project.
I'm in. Pledged $ 101.00
Best regards from Germany |
Thanks Volker! Great to see some support from across the pond! |
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darrell tunnell
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Rob team Visalia is in for 1500 , it needs to happen , John does great work , dt
| Rob Howden wrote: | First off, I want to thank the people who have gotten behind the 'Become One' documentary project thus far. This is going to be an important piece of media for the future growth of karting.
To address what John just said, I think people need to understand the true road that we'll take to reach the target funding goal for this project. Yes, it would be kick-butt to has 40 people step up with $1000 each to get it done, and I'm sure that could easily happen in this community, but it likely won't.
What would be the second option would be to have 400 karters pledge $100. Now that doesn't seem that hard, does it. That's less than 80% of the racers who ran the SuperNationals last year.
What I'm trying to say is that just because all you can pledge is somewhere between $25-$100, please don't think that its any less important than the karter who has the ability to support this important work with $1000. Every little bit counts and it all adds up.
Yes, there were 800 views of this thread....and it they all pledged just $10, it would be $8000. The key is this...PLEDGE....even if it's just $10, it will help. |
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John Shofner
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| darrell tunnell wrote: | Rob team Visalia is in for 1500 , it needs to happen , John does great work , dt
| Rob Howden wrote: | First off, I want to thank the people who have gotten behind the 'Become One' documentary project thus far. This is going to be an important piece of media for the future growth of karting.
To address what John just said, I think people need to understand the true road that we'll take to reach the target funding goal for this project. Yes, it would be kick-butt to has 40 people step up with $1000 each to get it done, and I'm sure that could easily happen in this community, but it likely won't.
What would be the second option would be to have 400 karters pledge $100. Now that doesn't seem that hard, does it. That's less than 80% of the racers who ran the SuperNationals last year.
What I'm trying to say is that just because all you can pledge is somewhere between $25-$100, please don't think that its any less important than the karter who has the ability to support this important work with $1000. Every little bit counts and it all adds up.
Yes, there were 800 views of this thread....and it they all pledged just $10, it would be $8000. The key is this...PLEDGE....even if it's just $10, it will help. |
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Thanks again Darrell! |
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scot smith
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| I sure hope you get this funded. I think you explain it in you 2nd and 3rd sentence of your first post. There are so many good reasons why the karting community needs a film like this. In just the short time I have been involved in karting there are some people with some serious money and it would be great to see them step up and help you and all of us out with this project. |
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Oscar Aguilera
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 4:57 am Post subject: |
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im in for $100. i messaged john back and forth on facebook and i am with him. i believe he will do everything that howie is talking about.
his video and editing already conveys a message without narative.
come on guys? put up something? some of you have $2000 helmets,,,,data aqisition.....trailers and trucks with a value to feed and 3rd world country...not to mention all the equipment!
and lets not forget the kart itself!
just give what you can....and be a participant in a karting event....even if you arent currently racing. we have all these spectators posting and lurking,,,trolliing and stirring the pot. the only thing we have in common is karting.....until you hit the track or get involved....you are just a spectator
show some support.....just my opinion |
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