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Matthew Shane
Joined: 09 Nov 2011 Posts: 14 Location: United States, Florida, Orlando
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:19 am Post subject: In-kart radio |
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| Most forms of motorsport have radio that allows the Mechanic to communicate with the driver. Why shouldn't karts? And of they do, please let mr know of one. |
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John Matthews
Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 1988 Location: United States, Michigan, Williamsburg
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:47 am Post subject: Re: In-kart radio |
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| Matthew Shane wrote: | | Most forms of motorsport have radio that allows the Mechanic to communicate with the driver. Why shouldn't karts? And of they do, please let mr know of one. |
Against the rules.
Hand signals are just as effective and less distracting to the driver too.
Cheers, _________________ John Matthews
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Alan Dove
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 983 Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain), not usa state,
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:55 am Post subject: Re: In-kart radio |
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| Matthew Shane wrote: | | Most forms of motorsport have radio that allows the Mechanic to communicate with the driver. Why shouldn't karts? And of they do, please let mr know of one. |
well there are several reasons.
1. Safety - unlike cars, karters can be thrown from a kart during a crash. I'd wouldn't want anything attached to me that isn't anything other than a protection based device, especially some electronic equipment. I'd imagine it's the same with motorbikes.
2. Cost - a driver would in effect be in possession of more information about race strategy i.e where their rivals are and how to control the race. This could be critical in a race where the championship could be on the line. By implementing radios you would be forcing already financially burdened karters to spend even more money on something that 1. doesn't make you faster 2. doesn't make you safer. 3 doesn't reduce costs, just so they can stay competitive with the big spenders.
3. I think it's pointless and adds nothing to the experience of karting.
edit: I should add I am referring mainly to sprint karting here, not enduro. _________________ Karting1.com - Home of the most awesome karting stuff on the net.
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andy metzger
Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 5 Location: United States, New Jersey, franklin lakes
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:57 am Post subject: |
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they are permitted to be used on enduro karts ( road race )
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Chuck Skowron
Joined: 19 Jul 2001 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:35 am Post subject: |
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To add to the reasons mentioned above. There is also the fear that crew members might utilize radios to facilitate blocking.
But most of all, prohibiting radios would lessen the likelihood of the crew member (more often than not: "Dad") from doing the driving, instead of the individual actually behind the wheel. We all know a karter is busy enough just driving the thing, imagine a voice incessantly chattering in ones ear about how to do their job.
I recall years ago, at a practice day, one father constantly blabbering in a radio to his daughter on track, who couldn't have been more than 8, and nearly managed to steer her right into an oncoming faster kart, while coming out of a turn! He didn't say as much after that near-incident. _________________ C. Skowron
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Johnny Brooks
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 313 Location: United States, Virginia, Arlington
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Radios are legal in roadracing, but if used to aid in blocking, that's prohibited.
Woodbridge kart club requires registering your frequencies so they can be monitored.
I believe radio use has fallen off, but there are still a few who use them.
Business class radios mounted in a metal sleeve is best to combat ignition noise interference.
Wire harness with helmet kit and remote push to talk button is required on kart. Headset with noise cancelling mic is best for pit use.
Here is a link for the guys who ya see most on TV. It ain't cheap, and that's probably the reason radio use is limited to just a few.
http://www.racingelectronics.com/ _________________ The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.--Winston Churchill |
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TJ Koyen
Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 1414 Location: United States, Wisconsin, Sun Prairie
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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I'll answer your question with another:
Why in the world would you want an in-kart radio system? _________________ T.J. Koyen
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Howie Idelson
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Tyler Meyers
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Burrell
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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We've been using the RACECEIVER 1-way receivers in short track racing years with great success! It helps in safety and helps to speed up the show. It allows "race control" to talk to the racers directly (quicker stopping on red flags, advise of local yellows, rough driving, traffic, etc.) And since it's the size of a pager, it's not a safety/weight issue on the kart.
I've been using one with my daughter in her kid kart (not yelling at her Howie ) and I know it's saved her from driving off the track and into a chain link fence at least once. These kids have the attention span of a gnat, and this is a great way to regain their attention! Race control could scan it and make sure some dad wasn't going ape *$&% on their kid.
RACECEIVER is $100 or so, and from the safety standpoint (when used correctly) is as important to safety as a good helmet in my opinion! Maybe it's time for karting to "modernize" a bit and considering adding a system like RACECEIVER... _________________ National Karting Alliance |
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Matthew Shane
Joined: 09 Nov 2011 Posts: 14 Location: United States, Florida, Orlando
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| TJ Koyen wrote: | I'll answer your question with another:
Why in the world would you want an in-kart radio system? |
If something goes wrong with the kart or you crash and you're stuck on track _________________ Racing is life. Everything before and after is just waiting
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TJ Koyen
Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 1414 Location: United States, Wisconsin, Sun Prairie
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Matthew Shane wrote: | | TJ Koyen wrote: | I'll answer your question with another:
Why in the world would you want an in-kart radio system? |
If something goes wrong with the kart or you crash and you're stuck on track |
What's that going to get you? Maybe in enduro racing when you can't see the whole track it'd be helpful, and as it sounds they do use them, but in sprint racing I can't see an application for it. _________________ T.J. Koyen
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Johnny Brooks
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 313 Location: United States, Virginia, Arlington
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Tyler Meyers wrote: | | "Leave me alone I know what I'm doing" |
Now THAT"S funny!
I think Kimi has since ditched his radio and replaced it with the equivalent weight in Vodka for his drink tube! _________________ The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.--Winston Churchill |
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