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Mike Giessen



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2001 6:37 pm    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

What does adding the front bar that goes from (spindel to spindel) do to the handling of the kart?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 7:14 am    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

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Originally posted by Mike Giessen:
What does adding the front bar that goes from (spindel to spindel) do to the handling of the kart?


It should increase front end grip.
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Pete Ryan



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 3:09 pm    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

thats what you get for having a fullerton mike
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Mike Giessen



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 3:31 pm    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

hey harry potter i wouldnt talk to much..haha thanks for the comment
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Pete Ryan



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 5:46 pm    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

does tom have the 2002 fullertons in yet? also, do you know if they are going back to the 30mm tubing for the lion?
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Mike Giessen



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 6:08 pm    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

I dont have a clue if he got them in yet. I also dont know what size they are going to for the lion, i only ran that chassis for a short time 2 yrs ago. and why are we asking? I thought you were on a Top Kart??


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Pete Ryan



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 6:35 pm    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

just wondering since no one liked the 2001 fullertons very much for classes other then shifter
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Mike Giessen



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 11:43 pm    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

oh goody, we always have a problem with front end grip. The only problem is that they sent the shipment of karts with out the front bar (ofcourse).
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Mike Giessen



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2001 2:51 pm    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

You kidding me??? the tigers are great and the FGK is kicking *** . The FGK is meant for the shifty not nething else. as for the lion.....??
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Christopher Livengood



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2001 5:13 pm    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

The fornt bar in a kart will also improve front end turn in and stability.
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David Trimble



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2001 7:10 am    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

Mike,

If your kart is pushing because and it is a very high grip track then your kart may be bound up. Adding a front torsion bar would stiffen the overal chassis making things worse. The front of the kart isn't seperate from the rear. This is what always happened with my CRG. I would be pushing like crazy sound I would put the front bar in and then things got worse. It may work on a Fullerton sound don't be afraid to try it.
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Jamie Webb



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2001 8:48 am    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

Put it in as a band-aid fix to add steering response. We have found a properly setup kart will be faster without the bar in.

The bar could also work if you have a soft chassis and are trying to use it in a higher HP class to prevent the chassis from twisting as much.

Don't forget that most bars weight about 4-6 pounds so you are also adding front weight.

Jamie
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Jamie Webb



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2001 8:50 am    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

Oh yeah,

Same for the rear bar. You should setup the kart without it and only add it if needed. Nice tuning aid to have when you need it but remember the chassis were designed to run without them in most cases.
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Christopher Livengood



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2001 11:12 pm    Post subject: Front bar equals?...... Reply with quote

In the case of a Tony Kart i beleive you will find that it is better to start with the rear bar in. Only in cases with extreme tightness whould you remove it.
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