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ANYONE EVER PUT A TRX 450 4 STOKE ENGINE ON A KART?

 
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tim shad



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: ANYONE EVER PUT A TRX 450 4 STOKE ENGINE ON A KART? Reply with quote

LOOKING TO DO ONE,ANY INFO WOULD BE AWSOME
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John Matthews



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like this one?



Good for doing donuts I guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDTOP13H-0U

But just because you can do something doesn't necessarily mean you should.

Lots of guys have done bike engines on karts but there actually is a limit to how much power you can use if you want to get around a track quickly. It's really about power to weight ratios and having a balanced package. Having a bunch of power without a class to run with or a plan of what you're doing with it is just silly in my book but that's just what I think, I like racing - not showing off to my co-workers.

There were some guys running 450 bike engines with Benn Herr in Phoenix but I don't think they were any faster than the stock Honda 125's.

http://www.southwestkarters.com/

It's a pretty large engine for a kart and if you just want maximum HP probably the best way to go is with an Axiro. It'll probably end up costing less in the long run.



http://www.renntechkarting.com/products_xr50.html

Much smaller package and way more power than almost anyone can use. The only place they're really racing them I know of is UAS

http://www.unlimitedallstars.org/

So, the short answer is yes it has been done. If you already have the motor, and the kart, and a fab shop, and lots of spare time, and money then go for it.... The only places to race are going to be dirt oval unlimited racing.

http://karting.4cycle.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27

Or road race courses that run pursuit style races like they did in Phoenix. Most sprint tracks will probably send you away.

Good luck and make sure you have the brakes to stop if you do build it Shocked

Cheers,
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mike clements



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Location: United States, Arizona, San Tan Valley

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 450 twin cam, 4 valve, 4 strokes seem to be taking over the UAS right now. The BRC-150 is very hard to beat though.
With the Moto-X 450's, they are removing the gearbox to save weight. They have an excellent power to weight ratio. Some of the guys in the UAS will likely steer you in the right direction for mounts, gears, etc to help you.
The Axiro Wankel is a very nice package with a very broad torque curve making it easy to drive.
At any rate, do what you enjoy. If it's fun, go for it. Very Happy
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paul rees



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:15 pm    Post subject: 450 Reply with quote

John Matthews wrote:
Like this one?



Good for doing donuts I guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDTOP13H-0U

But just because you can do something doesn't necessarily mean you should.

Lots of guys have done bike engines on karts but there actually is a limit to how much power you can use if you want to get around a track quickly. It's really about power to weight ratios and having a balanced package. Having a bunch of power without a class to run with or a plan of what you're doing with it is just silly in my book but that's just what I think, I like racing - not showing off to my co-workers.

There were some guys running 450 bike engines with Benn Herr in Phoenix but I don't think they were any faster than the stock Honda 125's.

http://www.southwestkarters.com/

It's a pretty large engine for a kart and if you just want maximum HP probably the best way to go is with an Axiro. It'll probably end up costing less in the long run.



http://www.renntechkarting.com/products_xr50.html

Much smaller package and way more power than almost anyone can use. The only place they're really racing them I know of is UAS

http://www.unlimitedallstars.org/

So, the short answer is yes it has been done. If you already have the motor, and the kart, and a fab shop, and lots of spare time, and money then go for it.... The only places to race are going to be dirt oval unlimited racing.

http://karting.4cycle.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27

Or road race courses that run pursuit style races like they did in Phoenix. Most sprint tracks will probably send you away.

Good luck and make sure you have the brakes to stop if you do build it Shocked

Cheers,
Donut never had a interest other eating kind . Power yes the engine have lot of Torque . Fab Shop I don't own one my self . But you would supprised easy it is to mount . Cost I thought it a cheap way to have FUN . And yes dirt oval racing is a great place to have some Fun go FAST . And use some driving skill .
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paul rees



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:11 am    Post subject: Racing Reply with quote

Socaloval karters this Passed Sat @ Perris Ca. I got a runner up in my 450 Honda i was in the UAS Unlimited allstars class . Broady Roa < Spelling was first . I am still learning how to drive , still learning what the kart wants . Got to shake hands with Broady at the end , Great driver nice young guy . Got to go home with no broken parts or bent kart . There are many types of Kart Racing , just go out do some racing . Don't worry about what some has on there rig . It's their program and ball of wax , the Good thing is to have some fun . Paul
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Mike Burris



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good run Paul, nice to see the progress you've made!! It's great to hear the tires break loose coming off the corner and the left front just hanging there and Brody and his direct drive 2 smoker hitting 18,000 rpm.
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paul rees



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:13 pm    Post subject: Perris Reply with quote

Mike Burris wrote:
Good run Paul, nice to see the progress you've made!! It's great to hear the tires break loose coming off the corner and the left front just hanging there and Brody and his direct drive 2 smoker hitting 18,000 rpm.
We had a Burris Army in the house . Messed up on Gopro and got Zerooooooooooooo videosssssssssssssss Doh . Got lots of nice pic's of my mug thou . Brody drove a smart race and ran me down LoL .
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