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FUEL PUMP AROUND SYSTEM VS REG CARB
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Jeff DeMello



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: CR125 Fuel System Reply with quote

Alex King wrote:
None of the above names matter...instead...these 8 elite drivers DO!!!

Jason Berry wrote:
Quick List of SwedeTech customers using the GFS.

Jimmy McNeil – 2011 ProTour S4 National Champion
Mirko Torsellini – 2011 SuperNationals S1 Winner
Nick Neri – 2011 SuperNationals S2 Winner
Bonnier Moulton – 2011 SuperNationals S4 Winner
Jimmy McNeil – 2010 SuperNationals S4 Winner
Alex Speed – 2010 SuperNationals S1 Winner
Daniel Langon – 2010 SuperNationals S5 Winner
Alex King - 726 EKN Posts (and counting)

http://www.shopswedetech.com/category_s/86.htm



I don't see Goebel's name there Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:39 am    Post subject: Re: CR125 Fuel System Reply with quote

Jeff DeMello wrote:
Alex King wrote:
None of the above names matter...instead...these 8 elite drivers DO!!!

Jason Berry wrote:
Quick List of SwedeTech customers using the GFS.

Jimmy McNeil – 2011 ProTour S4 National Champion
Mirko Torsellini – 2011 SuperNationals S1 Winner
Nick Neri – 2011 SuperNationals S2 Winner
Bonnier Moulton – 2011 SuperNationals S4 Winner
Jimmy McNeil – 2010 SuperNationals S4 Winner
Alex Speed – 2010 SuperNationals S1 Winner
Daniel Langon – 2010 SuperNationals S5 Winner
Alex King - 726 EKN Posts (and counting)

http://www.shopswedetech.com/category_s/86.htm



I don't see Goebel's name there Shocked


Mike Goebel - 2010 SuperNationals S1 spectator
Mike Goebel - 2010 SuperNationals S2 spectator
Mike Goebel - 2010 SuperNationals S4 spectator
Mike Goebel - 2010 SuperNationals S5 spectator
Mike Goebel - 2011 SuperNationals S1 spectator
Mike Goebel - 2011 SuperNationals S2 spectator
Mike Goebel - 2011 SuperNationals S4 spectator
Mike Goebel - 2011 SuperNationals S5 spectator
Jeff DeMello - 2010 SuperNationals S1 spectator
Jeff DeMello - 2010 SuperNationals S2 spectator
Jeff DeMello - 2010 SuperNationals S4 spectator
Jeff DeMello - 2010 SuperNationals S5 spectator
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok now I see it Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: CR125 Fuel System Reply with quote

Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I wanted to promote a product I would also sponsor the top drivers with my product rather than the bottom drivers. The answer will blow in the wind until one of the top drivers takes off his system and still win or not...

The fact that the top drivers use the system says nothing else than they may eat the same cereal or wear the same sun glasses in the pits.

Do we all become better golfers from buying Nike golf clubs like the Tiger? No Nike just wants us to believe so, so they paid Tiger to use Nike...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: Re: CR125 Fuel System Reply with quote

Sam Zavaglia wrote:

I don't see Goebel's name there Shocked

Mike Goebel - 2010 SuperNationals spectator
Mike Goebel - 2011 SuperNationals spectator


You forgot 2008 and 2009 plus I watched some TAG races too.

Mike G.

P.S I was the tent manager for more of the SWE pump systems drivers than any other tent manager Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:33 am    Post subject: Re: CR125 Fuel System Reply with quote

Please remain respectful and STOP referring to Jimmy as 'Propaganda Minister'.

Steve Buckner wrote:
Only one name has no merit. Its the Propaganda Minister.
Alex King wrote:
None of the above names matter...instead...these 8 elite drivers DO!!!

Jason Berry wrote:
Quick List of SwedeTech customers using the GFS.

Jimmy McNeil – 2011 ProTour S4 National Champion
Mirko Torsellini – 2011 SuperNationals S1 Winner
Nick Neri – 2011 SuperNationals S2 Winner
Bonnier Moulton – 2011 SuperNationals S4 Winner
Jimmy McNeil – 2010 SuperNationals S4 Winner
Alex Speed – 2010 SuperNationals S1 Winner
Daniel Langon – 2010 SuperNationals S5 Winner
Alex King - 726 EKN Posts (and counting)

http://www.shopswedetech.com/category_s/86.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: CR125 Fuel System Reply with quote

Mike Goebel wrote:

P.S I was the tent manager for more of the SWE pump systems drivers than any other tent manager Laughing

Just as important as keeping the fuel up to the main jet, is ensuring that the fluids are kept up in the SWE pump systems drivers beer tent.
Nice job there Mike G.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Jimmy, but if you use 10 cent tee you'll go just as fast and save a lot of weight. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What is funny is before you ever saw or knew about this system I have been in talks with Mike and Tom K about disallowing it in stock honda.


I doubt it. I had the first generation of this system on my kart months before the 2009 SuperNats. Speed wasn't racing stock honda at that time, he was in the KF class that year.


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If I can help someone with just a Zip tie than what is that any of your busness,


I could have fixed that guys problem by shoving a $.05 piece of used chewing gum in the line. It would have fixed one problem but created another.





And when you get down to the cost of the system, after you buy the pumps and have a carb modified(for the pump around system), the ST system isnt that much more. If you want to run two different carbs throughout the year, you dont have to spend the $$$ to have them modified. You just bolt on a bone stock carb. Ive had a carb mod'd to a pump around that wouldnt perform properly after. Something to do with how the tube was inserted. Never an issue with the ST system

And while im on my rant, the new system is about 10% of the upkeep as the pump around. I use to take apart the pumps to clean them before every race. With the new system the pumps pulse inlet is facing down, any oil that gets into the system drains down out of the pumps.
This year, I pulled the lines off the pumps about 3 times all year to let the oil run out. The pumps were pulled apart one time.

You mentioned some of the top guys from back in the day that didnt use the ST system, they didnt have a choice, It wasn't out yet.
The current top drivers are using the system.

This new system is a big improvement over the old system, but hey if you want to continue to use the old stuff, go right ahead. Like I said, I hope my competitors do the same.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah Jimmy, but if you use 10 cent tee you'll go just as fast and save a lot of weight.


Tom I agree with you on one thing, the Dellorto carb is much nicer than the Keihin. Wish it was the carb chosen by the stock honda gods.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha...do we have a 'LIKE' button for this?

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I could have fixed that guys problem by shoving a $.05 piece of used chewing gum in the line. It would have fixed one problem but created another...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wink

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