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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimmy, I should have said it more clearly. I was referring to Dellorto not needing PA system.

But I have tuned Keihin for friends and they run great with a tee in the line.

I don't know why the floats would be a quality issue with the Keihin. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S. Jimmy,

I can build you a stock Honda with no 'trick' fuel system and you'll win just like always.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: CR125 Fuel System Reply with quote

Jeff DeMello wrote:
Alex King wrote:
I am a poor cheap bastard frugal w/ the little money that I have - I spend wisely - and paying for it was the easiest thing for me to justify (money well spent). In fact, I would highly recommend you all to sell your engines (regardless what you have) - just sell it now! and apply sale proceeds towards a brand new engine package from SwedeTech - just buy the whole thing all at once and you won't regret it.

Chris Reinhardt wrote:
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I wonder how many of them paid for it????

CR


MFG racinsg is buying my new Swedetech stock Honda for me to run the East coast shifter races Wink Laughing


good to see another stocker coming to the northeast shifter series!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:39 pm    Post subject: stock honda Reply with quote

Brian Fisher builds an awesome stock honda motor package for a reasonable cost. His engines compete with anybody's
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: stock honda Reply with quote

Don Guilbeault wrote:
Brian Fisher builds an awesome stock honda motor package for a reasonable cost. His engines compete with anybody's

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just joshing with Jimmy about building a Honda. Not going to mess with motorcycle engines as long as there kart engines.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]Quick List of SwedeTech customers using the GFS.

Jimmy McNeil – 2011 ProTour S4 National Champion
Mirko Torsellini – 2011 SuperNationals S1 Winner
Nick Neri – 2011 SuperNationals S2 Winner
Bonnier Moulton – 2011 SuperNationals S4 Winner
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So, I would say the drivers get the credit there ey,,would not do as well with out the extra fuel venting? I think these were top drivers no matter the motor.


So if the ST Fuel system does not get more HP to the motor and it takes more then 13 hp just for a couple of tenths , were is the value for your buck? If 13HP does very little what will no more HP do.

Simple fact :We have more HP on the ground then we can use in the corners for forward momentum and adding more makes it harder to drive in corners and the tracks are 95%corners .That's why the top G1 and S4 guys had almost the same times.They were easier in the corners to drive.



50 HP with the G1 ICC against 37hp Spec Honda.With the HP difference they were only a few tenths faster??With the same driver.



13 hp difference, so is the extra $400.00 fuel systems worth the time you will not gain then go for it, help drive up the cost of karting till the motors are $8000.00 because $7000.00 is not high enough yet.



There should be a spec fuel flow system simple and free,no over flowing, no floats sticking,no cuting out and on and on.The few who say they have these problems have not done it right.Or are used to thmoddeded motors.

Put the Lower vent tube higher then the top of the carb,and it provides the over flow a place to go and the carb does nostarverv because it goes back in when needed, does not come out all over the kart or in a bottle.


Sorry guys, but I race and build motors as well as help everyone that comes around to the track,If its not broke don't fix it.
Its my hobby and I am trying to keep it around.
We cant let a simple Spec Motor get up to the cost of the Mod motors.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: CR125 Fuel System Reply with quote

Jason Berry wrote:
Although after driving J McNeil's package a few weeks ago, I think it could have won by itself. One of the best handling chassis I've been in.

Jimmy can't drive. He is the weakest link in his package. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Perdue wrote:
So if the ST Fuel system does not get more HP to the motor and it takes more then 13 hp just for a couple of tenths , were is the value for your buck? If 13HP does very little what will no more HP do.


I would respectfully disagree...

The less power you have, the more important it is to put all of it to use. A very small bog or stumble is a much bigger deal when you're dealing with a momentum type race vehicle. If you have gobs of power, a little stumble means you go deeper into the next corner...

A couple of tenths at a club race is one thing, a couple of tenths with the big boys, is first to last.....

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Reinhardt wrote:
Steve Perdue wrote:
So if the ST Fuel system does not get more HP to the motor and it takes more then 13 hp just for a couple of tenths , were is the value for your buck? If 13HP does very little what will no more HP do.


I would respectfully disagree...

The less power you have, the more important it is to put all of it to use. A very small bog or stumble is a much bigger deal when you're dealing with a momentum type race vehicle. If you have gobs of power, a little stumble means you go deeper into the next corner...

A couple of tenths at a club race is one thing, a couple of tenths with the big boys, is first to last.....

CR



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Perdue wrote:

Its my hobby and I am trying to keep it around.
We cant let a simple Spec Motor get up to the cost of the Mod motors.


Steve,
Cost is always another great debate in many forms of motorsports. It has been a while since I have priced chassis, what is the cost of a new Intrepid 125cc Roller equipped a basic MyChron 4 and a set of MG Tires?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason Berry wrote:
Steve Perdue wrote:

Its my hobby and I am trying to keep it around.
We cant let a simple Spec Motor get up to the cost of the Mod motors.


Steve,
Cost is always another great debate in many forms of motorsports. It has been a while since I have priced chassis, what is the cost of a new Intrepid 125cc Roller equipped a basic MyChron 4 and a set of MG Tires?


Most of the kart products are way over priced Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is everyone soooo negative of someone profiting? Do you go to work? Do you do you're job? Do you get paid? Swede tech puts in mad hours and does one hell of a job. Why shouldn't they get paid for endless testing and track support? Motorsports is NO different than any other hobby. If it's a hobby then you need to leave it at that. If you want to be good at your hobby you may have to spend a little more money than the other guy. Take golf for example. You can be on a course playing for $300 or less. If you want the best clubs you're gonna spend $1000-$5000 to play on the same course but have a slight advantage. You might even spend $40 for a box of the best balls to give you another slight advantage. The gravity feed system is just a bigger better ball. The motor is the best clubs you can buy. What this means is swede tech is great at golf!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Laird wrote:
Why is everyone soooo negative of someone profiting? Do you go to work? Do you do you're job?


I work for a major airline and they reduced my pay so they could sell tickets at a loss Shocked go figure.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in central ca, am self employed and my business fell off 77% all at once in 2008. Everybody has a sob story of there own. I say f**k that!!! I weathered the storm kept a positive attitude and I'm now doing better than ever. Not once when I was down and out did I bi**h and complain about someone else having something or making money. Shame on you! Call 9 whah whah and they'll send the whambulence. If your not all money'd up do what you can do but don't "occupy" karting and try to prevent someone else from prospering Wink All bs aside karting is awesome and if you haven't tested a product yourself don't knock it!
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