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David Cole Site Admin
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 8587 Location: United States, Michigan, Comstock Park
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:21 pm Post subject: The Bottom Line - Reading a Positive Trend into the Numbers |
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A new column from EKN Publisher Rob Howden was posted this morning. If you have a chance, give it a read and we would love to hear your feedback and comments on the subject.
http://www.ekartingnews.com/news_info.php?n=19722 _________________ David Cole
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jim rogero
Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 1030 Location: United States, Florida, naples
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it is great. Good read. |
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Thom Andresen
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Having participated in many of the events mentioned, I too think it is a great positive read.  _________________ I spend my money on hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste. |
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Jerry Brown
Joined: 15 May 2011 Posts: 130 Location: United States, Florida, Saint Cloud
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:10 pm Post subject: very nice read |
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A positive and informative read. I really enjoyed it.
Thank You
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Augie Lerch
Joined: 31 May 2010 Posts: 15 Location: United States, Arizona, Tucson
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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The question to this is what is happenning to the clubs that feed the racers to these series?
Club participation and new driver growth has sufferred in our area. Without healthy clubs, the pool will run dry at the regional and national level. |
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josh Garwood
Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Posts: 36 Location: United States, california, Sacramento
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Definitely a nicely written article.
I feel like we are our own poison as far as club participation goes. As a stated on a forum started on Facebook, we need to get back to helping out the new folks. Talking to them. Make them feel welcome at the tracks and So on.
Karting can be intimidating when you first start out. You show up and see these huge trailers and sometimes big rigs. We've got to do a better job of keeping these new folks coming back and not scare them off. Lets make them want to come back to hang out with their new friends while their learning the ropes. Think customer service _________________ GwenGarwoodRacing.com
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Mike Sirochman
Joined: 05 May 2011 Posts: 35 Location: United States, Florida, Crystal River
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Good to hear. _________________ 2010 CRG Dark Rider DD2
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Rob Howden Site Admin
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 2145 Location: Canada, Ontario, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| josh Garwood wrote: | Definitely a nicely written article.
I feel like we are our own poison as far as club participation goes. As a stated on a forum started on Facebook, we need to get back to helping out the new folks. Talking to them. Make them feel welcome at the tracks and So on.
Karting can be intimidating when you first start out. You show up and see these huge trailers and sometimes big rigs. We've got to do a better job of keeping these new folks coming back and not scare them off. Lets make them want to come back to hang out with their new friends while their learning the ropes. Think customer service |
Josh and Augie,
I'm glad that you both elected to post to this thread, as you bring up great points about where we may need to divert some of our attention. While our major events and national level series are thriving to a certain extent, these do not represent the sport on the whole. If you use the pyramid example, these are the top 10% of the racers, maybe 1000 in total. What I believe to be a key focus for 2012 is the club level of karting, which is the foundation of the sport or the base of the pyramid.
Personally, I love club racing. I'm going to do a bunch of it this coming summer here at home - four-cycle OHV racing - it's where I started. Saturday morning racing - start at 7 am, end at 2 pm - practice and three heats, done - home for a BBQ with the family. Throw the kart in the back of the pick-up and enjoy. Pure karting at its best.
So what do we do to support what we have and attract more racers? _________________ Rob Howden
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Brian Wilhelm
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 874 Location: United States, Arkansas,
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:04 am Post subject: ! |
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Nicely done Rob! _________________ Brian |
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Jeff Wesell Advertiser

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Don Guilbeault Advertiser

Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 185 Location: United States, New Hampshire, pelham
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:43 am Post subject: karting |
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Rob-very well written. This past year DRT Racing has had the opportunity to run a wide variety of events. We have run road race,sprint and street races. I would agree with you karting is heading in a positive direction despite the economic challenges facing many.
Of all the karting orgs we were part of last year, one orginization has impressed me- SKUSA. Tom Kutcher and his staff run the best event of any we have raced.
The entry numbers for WKA/ Daytona this year were very good in sprint/road race and dirt. Unfortunatly there was no info of any kind coming from Daytona which hurts. I personally would like to see EKN be part of the Daytona event each year. It will only help interest in karting going forward for the new year.
I would encourage kart shops to get involved in their local karting scene. I firmly beleive the kart shops are key to racer numbers at all events from local grassroot events to regional to national shows. Racers that go to events that struggle or break often get frustrated and interest drops off. A good shop will help anyone and should never look to overcharge or take advantage of racers because they think they have them at an event- help the racer and in turn he will remember who and where to buy. The cheapest place to buy is not always the best.
Help your fellow racer, road racers are the perfect example of racers helping each other. I am not saying give them all your setups so they go out and kick your ass, help them put their kart up on a stand, help someone struggling to mount a tire etc-etc _________________ DRT Racing
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Ray Mcik
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:30 am Post subject: Re: karting |
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| Don Guilbeault wrote: | | I would encourage kart shops to get involved in their local karting scene. I firmly beleive the kart shops are key to racer numbers at all events from local grassroot events to regional to national shows. people that go to events that struggle or break get frustrated and interest drops off. A good shop will help anyone and should never look to overcharge or take advantage of racers because they think they have them at an event- help the racer and in turn he will remember who and where to buy. The cheapest place to buy is not always the best. |
Well stated. but a big problem is that local shops need to maintain profitability, the biggest thing that is hurting these shops is online sales of parts and karts...they tend to sale at very low margins...where as the local shops have over head to maintain... Yea i know buying online is a very easy way for many karters who do not have easy access to a local shop to get parts..
Drop shipping of parts etc directly from distributors should be stopped, and protected territories established and enforced with pricing controls.. Distributors want kart shops to maintain a certain dollar amount in stocking inventory in order to be a dealer , thats fine, but why should they when someone can find the same part/chassis for ten percent less online and have it shipped to them for next to nothing ? all this does is take much needed profit away from the local shop they need to pay the over head to maintain a store front...
Look i know there are some very reputable online shops that are also kart shops that do a great job in taking care of the karters and support karting by giving back..Komet is one of them along with several others.., But there are also many online stores who only interest in karting is what they can sell to them...
I prefer to buy locally from the shops that come to the track and have needed parts on hand even if its costs a bit more...
Bottom line, if local kart shops are as important as you say they , then more is needed to support and protect them. Profit is not a dirty word... _________________ Ohio Valley Karting Association
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Jean Stafford
Joined: 19 Jul 2001 Posts: 324 Location: United States, Ohio, Dayton
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Ray and Don,
You are avsolutely correct. Unfortunately, there's EBay. Here an individual can sell items at almost 0 margin.
Karters should deal with those who are supportive of them at the track.
Another issued is those who are flush with money purchase in quanity, at Dealer price, then unload what they don't need, or open a "One light bulb" shop" and sell at zero profit just so they can buy at the best cost. Seen it happen too manu times.
This process will, in time, eliminate kart shops from the scene alltogether. See if you can get support then at the track. _________________ Jean Stafford
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Andrew M. Coulter
Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 147 Location: Quincy IL
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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From my experience, it is not hard to get newbies into our sport. The hard part is sustaining them once they get into karting. I would say the average career of karter is two to four years. The question I would ask is why? Is it the cost? Is it the maintenance? Is it because track owners are not giving back to the racers? Is it because guys (and girls) do not think karting is for them because they are getting beat? Is it because there is no feeder system?
In my opinion, a true feeder system from the club level up would help sustain participation numbers. Let juniors be juniors as is. Create a “beginner” (clone) and “experienced” (Shifter/TAG) class at the local level. Give newbies something to aim for. Create a system that money cannot buy its way through. Give the newbies experienced drivers to look up to. Once you have mastered your local club, represent your club at regionals. If you are a top regional driver, you can move onto the national series. What the hell is a kid kart national champion? Or a jr. sportsman national champion? This makes our sport look like a joke, in my opinion. What is left for your child after winning a karting national championship before the senior ranks? Other forms of racing. This is what happens to the majority of the young kids in our sport that are successful.
The problem is money. Drivers that have the most money (usually kids that have unlimited funds from mom and dad) are the drivers that will be successful in our sport. WKA, SKUSA and any other organization want quantities of drivers (entries), not quality drivers. A guy just starting out can go run a national race against guys with 10+ years of experience. This cannot be good for our sport. Maybe an organization that is not so greedy can change things around? I don’t know.
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Bill Cox
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 294 Location: United States, California, San Diego
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Rob: You gave us a well-written piece. Thank you.
If the region and national series required new drivers to spend three full racing seasons competing at the club level before moving up, all validated, it just might be the boost that clubs need. Club racing is the place to learn race-craft; not at the region or national series.
Just my opinion from having watched the club numbers dry up in our area. _________________ Bill Cox
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