Nov. Fastrack. Let the weight complaints begin

Tim Walsh

Looks like the november fastrack is out:
http://www.scca.com:8080/assets/11-fastrack-nov-solo.pdf

ITEM 37) Change 19.1.D.1.f.2:
“2. Non-OE Ignition: Non-OE Capacitive Discharge Ignition (CDI) may be used provided that the stator, rotor and
flywheel (including any wires and connectors) must be OE and may not move by any remote device. Furthermore,
the ignition system may not control the fuel induction system in any manner. Ignition interrupt systems (e.g., speed
shift and no lift shift systems) are specifically disallowed. The CDI must be normally commercially available over
the counter in the USA to all competitors. Use of any non-OE ignition CDI, programmable or pre-programmed,
incurs a 25-lb weight penalty.”
FasTrack May 2011
ITEM 3 Cool

Change the first paragraph of 19.1.D.2 to read as follows:
“2. KZ (ICC): All current or prior approved CIK-FIA engines are allowed. Engine must be a liquid-cooled, single-cylinder,
125 cc design with a single reed-valve circuit. All engine, intake, exhaust, ignition, and transmission components
must be CIK-FIA homologated except where otherwise specified. However, components may be interchanged
between model years of the same engine manufacturer and brand. Karts with ICC engines must conform to
chassis, braking, wheel, and tire regulations of the SCCA Solo Rules Section 19.1 and incur an additional 25 lb
weight adjustment.”
FasTrack May 2011
ITEM 39) Change the class name designation of F125 to Kart Modified (KM).

Cliffs Notes: Stock Ignition 385 PI/ICC 410?

Joe Ricard · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:32 pm Post subject:

This has been discussed here to the point of people getting all red in the face.

Now I only have to bolt 50 pounds of lead to my ICC. If I wasn't such a skinny azz it would be less. No worries. I need to learn to drive better before I complain about weight.

And I am working on that.
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Tim Walsh · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:44 am Post subject:

I've read through most of those threads, hence the title. I'm too new to say yeah or nay on how well they are going to to work. Just means I either need to bolt on some lead, or remove the PI module. I'm thinking of removing the module.

Trey Davis · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:28 am Post subject:

It's only 5 lbs. Hell, if you take a big crap before you run, that's 5 lbs right there. I don't see this making much difference. I do like the KM designation much better.
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Tim Walsh · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:17 am Post subject:

Tom Reynolds · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:51 am Post subject:

I don't think too many people have any right to complain at this point considering how few letters we have received on all the topics in the last year. Despite all the chatter here, it's almost like no one cares.

Dale Seeley · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:55 am Post subject:

We don't make the rules, we follow them. Cool

Tom Reynolds · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:41 am Post subject:

Jason Vehige · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:49 am Post subject:

Nothing should be a huge surprise for anyone who has been paying attention..... Cool

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08 Gillard Charlotte / SGM sl204
05 Vanspeed Sirio / SGM sl204

Brian Garfield · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject:

There are more items that should've been in that Fastrack (re: Junior rules) but got overlooked. Mostly stuff that everyone who's been paying attention know about:
1) Junior designations being JA, JB, and JC
2) Junior Spec Tire being the MG Red/HZ
3) Required redundancy on brake cable
4) Elimination of Methanol from FJA

Brian

Joe Ricard · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:16 pm Post subject:

Methanol from FJA??
I missed that one.

How about spec motors???
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Danny Kao · Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 192

Larry MacLeod · Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:54 am Post subject:

Interesting...
The "November" fastrack email I received actually linked the solo/SEB portion to the October fastrack. Guess I shouldn't trust National Office email I receive.

But it was October that mentioned the "spec" engine proposal for FJ @ National events. Which reminded me I need to write another letter...

Spec engine? You guys are smokin' something.

Larry
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Andrew Peppler · Joined: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 91

It feels (this is how I'm interpreting it) like the spec engine is not a matter of if it happens, it sounds like only a matter of when it will happen. Again, this is how I'm taking it but I wrote a letter against it.
Basically:
1) Engines are quite equal with current rules (except Raptor in FJA). FJA can get it done with KT100/Rotax/WF and FJB has the Raptor and restricted KT100 fairly equal. Not sure about restricted WF in FJB as I don't think most are running this package.
2) WF racers/engine builders are not anywhere close to me... so what do I do when I have motor issues? Spend $$$ to ship it a few states over?
3) WF is a $1,000 engine which was way above my budget when my son started earlier this year. It is $1,500 for a blueprinted WF from one source I found. This high entry cost might of deterred me from putting him in the kart. I spent $450 for a used local KT100 w/ clutch which I thought was a lot at the time.
4)Local tracks only have limited Animal/Clone programs but high Rotax and KT100 programs. There is no WF sprint classes that I know of in my area. So I would have to have a second kart ready for sprint racing. This is actually a big deal to me because I bought our package that uses the same so I specifically could haul it to an autox one weekend and the track the next weekend.
5)Availability makes things cheaper. If the local track races KT100's then there are plenty of used parts and engines to make things easier and cheaper.

Again, these are my thoughts. I guess $1,500 will be the standard for a national FJ kart motor since most will probably blueprint to some extent. Maybe there is more of a used market then I am aware of... I just checked ebay and only found new motors available from $955 to $1049 w/o shipping.

Kids should just go out and have fun is whatever package works best for the kid/parent.

Danny Kao · Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 192

Currently, the ratio of letters are 6:1 in favor of a spec motor for Juniors. The rationales in favor ranging from fair competition, noise reduction, and on board starter. These are pretty legitimate concerns not only to the karting class, but across the entire autocross classes. The folks who wrote the letters in favor of a spec motor are all current FJ parents or had kids that ran FJs before; some with WF, and some don't.

What we need are your letters to voice your opinion, and I am hoping to see different solutions that would address noise and stall on course. I think these are the issues that impacts everyone and ought to be address anyway and your suggestions are greatly appreciated.