IKF Proposals - What do you think?

[Deborah Davidson-Harpur]

So far we have recieved very few letters from the members on the 9 proposals put out to the membership this year. Remember that your input needs to arrive to the IKF office by the week of Sept. 20 so they can be addressed at the IKF BOD meeting in Seattle.

Hope to see some letters from the IKF members that participate on ekartingnews.com

[ August 14, 2001: Message edited by: Deborah Davidson-Harpur ]

[Erik Frank]

Deborah,

Is there a possibility that you could publish these proposals on the IKF web site?

thanks,
erik

[Chaz Clover]

Anywhere we can email our comments?



Chaz Clover
http://www.kartmonster.com

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Originally posted by Deborah Davidson-Harpur:
As soon as I saw your post I called the people who do our website, and asked where I could find it on there. And to my surprise, you can't! SOOOO...They are putting them on today, due to this very post!

Since the beginning of IKF the proposals ware a seperate ballot, etc, and until you posted this, and I phoned the publishers, they didn't even think about having to post that page,as anything to do with the proposals came out of the IKF office, not from their offices.

Look for it later in the day, and THANK YOU for pointing out that this very important item was missing from our own website!

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[Tim Doll]

Some of the directors do have email (I think they are listed in the front of the Karter News - I don't have a KN handy but they used to do that). However, if you print out your email, stick it in an envelope addressed to the IKF office with a 34 cent stamp and snail-mail it, it will carry more weight than any email.... Sorry, just a fact of life - the more trouble something is to do, the more effect it tends to have.

Tim

[Deborah Davidson-Harpur]

As soon as I saw your post I called the people who do our website, and asked where I could find it on there. And to my surprise, you can't! SOOOO...They are putting them on today, due to this very post!

Since the beginning of IKF the proposals ware a seperate ballot, etc, and until you posted this, and I phoned the publishers, they didn't even think about having to post that page,as anything to do with the proposals came out of the IKF office, not from their offices.

Look for it later in the day, and THANK YOU for pointing out that this very important item was missing from our own website!

[Rodney Ebersole]

It would be a good move for IKF if the would open up the Web site to a online discussion of any proposals where more opionions could be reviewed by more people and a greater understanding of any proposal would be made. Heck I should know but I guess I haven't taken the time to read them but it seems I find the time to read about every post on these forums. If I find the proposals some where on the web I will but a link here to it so maybe we can start a discussion here that could inspire some body to write in.

[deborah d-harpur]

The IKF office addresses, etc are in the front section of Karter News, usually across from the Table of Contents

If you can't find the info.. I will be glad to get my book out and retype it in here for you.

let me know

[deborah d-harpur]

The Karter News magazine has had the proposal out for about 3 issues. If you are a member, you get the magazine.

I guess I just don't understand why the people on this list find it difficult to fax or mail their views on the proposals.

Not all the IKF members have email, but ALL of them get the magazine, so the current way of doing this is still to print it in Karter NEw.

Right now the IKF site is not set up to be interactive. but you can download forms, etc and fax or mail them in.

Look forward to your input.

[Darren Swisher]

Deb, I am not an IKF member and have no ideas what proposals you are talking about, enlighten me on the process.

Darren

[deborah d-harpur]

Darren,

At the spring meeting each director can make proposals. Most of the proposals come from the various commitee chairmen who get a director to propose them for them

In IKF a rule cannot be changed that affects a drivers competitiveness without going through the proposal system.

This is the basic rundown on the proposal system. The proposal is made by a IKF BOD member, often by request from one of the committees, and it must get 2 seconds from other directors to make it on the offical proposal ballot. in the past this ballot was mailed to each member, this year it was simply printed in the Karter News, and asked members for feedback

Then in the Fall meeting the proposals are reviewed and the member input considered. a vote is taken by the IKF bod and if the proposal gets a majority of votes, it will be implimentd for the following season.

It is a bit slow going, but if the committees stay on top of things, they have their proposals ready early in the year. This system has been in place for many years to protect the karter from "rule of the week" problems that had become a big problem in the IKF. Keep in mind that many times the proposals will get two seconds from directors who are opposed to whatever idea is suggested, but since they feel that the members have the right to vote on the issue, they second it anyway. Just because a BOD member seconds a proposal does not mean that they are in agreement or that they will vote for that idea. I seconded every proposal that came from a committee, so that it could get input. I had no proposals of my own this year.

Sometimes there are tons of proposals, I remember one year there were sixty plus and sometimes there are not too many. this year there are only nine.

does that explain it good enough? the proposals are on the IKF website if you want to see what I am talking about

[Rodney Ebersole]

I hope it's ok that I just post them here?
2002 Proposals from Spring Meeting
of the IKF Board of Directors
I N T E R N A T I O N A L
K A R T F E D E R A T I O N
These proposals will be voted on at the October 6/7. 2001
BOD meeting. If passed, they will go into effect January 1. 2002.
You are urged to respond in writing to the IKF office direct-ed
to the Board of Directors) prior to the October meeting,
re: your opinion on each of these proposals. IKF can only
function well as a membership driven organization if each
member participates!
Proposal #1:
Pavement Speedway add class "2 Cyc. Superstock Heavy"
which would be:
Yamaha KT 100 gas & oil 330 lbs.
100cc Piston Port gas & oil 350 lbs.
100cc Reed & Rotary gas & oil 370 lbs.
Reason: it would provide another class for many of the Senior
2-Cycle karts to participate.
Proposal #2:
In 2-Cycle Speedway add a "Junior I Heavy" class at 270 lbs.
Reason: there is currently only one Junior I class. It would
provide a second class of the Junior I drivers. This would
provide second entries as well as encourage more Junior I's
to attend the Nationals.
Proposal #3:
Pavement Speedway: Change Rule 454.1.4 regarding track
length to be 1/4 mile rather than 1/5 mile.
Proposal #4:
Change Yamaha Class 13 & Yamaha Class 14 in Road Race,
to use a fixed pipe only, which is a Spec L4, disallowing all slip-pys.
Reason: West Coast is only area using slippy pipe. Fixed
pipe should be more cost effective for the racer.
Proposal #5:
Change the "Formula Moto 125 Sprint" and "International
Moto 125 Sprint" to be "Formula Moto 125 Light" and "For-mula
Moto 125 Heavy." The suggested weights would be
385 lbs. and 420 lbs. The Shift Kart division engine specifi-cations
would apply.
Proposal #6:
Proposed 2002 Road Race Classes, reducing from 22 to 15 as
follows:
1. Super Stock Sit-up 360#
2. Yamaha KT100S Ltd Light 330#
3. Yamaha KT100S Ltd Heavy 360#
4. Yamaha KT100S Junior Sprint 300#
5. Yamaha Sportsman 390#
6. 100cc Controlled 390#
7. Yamaha KT100S Heavy 390#
8. Formula Motor 125 385#
9. Formula Moto International 385#
10. Formula 80 Sr. 360#
11. Formula 80 Jr. 320#
12. 125/150 Open (FKEII) Per 2000 Rules
13. Unlimited (FKE III) Per 2000 Rules
14. Formula ICE 450#
15. Formula 125 Heavy 420#
Proposal #7:
To review the current Grand national Structure for 4 Cycle
Speedway to include two new classes. Those new classes
would be Senior Champ Kart and a Junior Champ Kart class.
Maximum National classes to remain at current number (14).
Reason: To increase participation with new Speedway con-cept
for IKF. Many current and potential participants would
prefer the option of a Speedway non-suspended kart with
roll cage protection.
Proposal #8:
At the recommendation of the 2 Cycle Sprint Committee, to
reduce the number of National Sprint Classes by one for the
2002 Racing Season.
Proposal #9:
To assist in the Junior I growth in Speedway Pavement Divi-sion,
input a Junior I K80 Cadet Class. This class will consist
of a K80 motor on a sprint cadet chassis. Reason: This would
possibly create a crossover from sprint to speedway. This is
one of the largest classes in 2 Cycle Sprint.
You may mail your opinions on these issues to:
International Kart Federation
1609 South Grove Avenue, Suite 105
Ontario, CA 91761
or fax them to 909-923-6940

[Rick Crow]

I would have like to have seen at least another 10# tacked on to 2cycle superstock heavy. If you are going to have a *heavy* class at least make the minimum weight enough for the big boys(220# plus) to compete
Not just a second class for the skinny boys.
I would like to see a minimum driver weight for the class also.
Regardless it would certainly encourage me to dust off my old rotary valves and go roundy-round racing more.


Rick

[Robert Brooks]

Yea Rick, I agree!! I would like to see the "heavy" classes actually allow a heavy driver to be competetive. Not just a place for the light drivers to add 15 lbs. This may not be a popular stance, but I am not in favor of having so many classes that it allows drivers to run 5 or so classes. Adjust weights or something within classes to allow different engines to be competitive with one another instead of having a different class. Just my $.02 worth. Hey, with less classes, we could add laps to each race....more track time.

[Rick Crow]

I agree Robert, I ran at a speedway last year that ran lite and heavy together. I thought it worked well. The heavies were a bit slower but didn't affect the race for the lites. The added benefit was the heavies weren't sitting on the grid waiting 20 mins for the liteweights to bolt on lead to run the heavy class.

Rick

[Deborah Davidson-Harpur]

If you want more weight added to a class in your division, you need to get the members who run those classes to write the the Committee members for that division.

Then they can propose it in April at the Spring meeting, you can vote on it and it will become effective the following year.

For Road Race, the weight for Super Stock is fine, and I think this year the only proposal that mentions that class is the RR division.

Why don't you cut and paste your post with your suggestion on it and send it in to us with your IKF membership number? Then it will go to the committee chairman and they can consult their committee about it, etc.

Thanks for the input.