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Tim Pappas
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 Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:10 am Post subject: shifter weights |
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I know there are a few clubs that run all shifters together, KZ, open moto, and stock moto. I am interested in knowing what weights they use for the different packages. Not interested in what everyone thinks they should be, just want to know what is actually being used and if it is successful.
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Bernard Muminovic
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:30 am Post subject: Re: shifter weights |
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| Tim Pappas wrote: | I know there are a few clubs that run all shifters together, KZ, open moto, and stock moto. I am interested in knowing what weights they use for the different packages. Not interested in what everyone thinks they should be, just want to know what is actually being used and if it is successful.
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385lbs KZ
405lbs stock moto
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Tim Pappas
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:42 am Post subject: Re: shifter weights |
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| Bernard Muminovic wrote: | | Tim Pappas wrote: | I know there are a few clubs that run all shifters together, KZ, open moto, and stock moto. I am interested in knowing what weights they use for the different packages. Not interested in what everyone thinks they should be, just want to know what is actually being used and if it is successful.
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385lbs KZ
405lbs stock moto |
Why is stock moto 20 pounds heavier than KZ with the horsepower deficit? I'm guessing you don't run them in the same class?
I'm looking for weight rules that are running all three engine formats heads up in the same class on a sprint track. I thought there was a club in Texas that did it, but not sure. |
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Jim McMahon
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:50 am Post subject: |
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MKC (eau claire, MN) runs Stock at 385 and Mod/KZ/ICC at 415.
This year I believe CES will allow stock to run at 375 with Mod/KZ/ICC at 385. Last year they both ran 385
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Bernard Muminovic
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:54 am Post subject: Re: shifter weights |
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| Tim Pappas wrote: | | Bernard Muminovic wrote: | | Tim Pappas wrote: | I know there are a few clubs that run all shifters together, KZ, open moto, and stock moto. I am interested in knowing what weights they use for the different packages. Not interested in what everyone thinks they should be, just want to know what is actually being used and if it is successful.
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385lbs KZ
405lbs stock moto |
Why is stock moto 20 pounds heavier than KZ with the horsepower deficit? I'm guessing you don't run them in the same class?
I'm looking for weight rules that are running all three engine formats heads up in the same class on a sprint track. I thought there was a club in Texas that did it, but not sure. |
Majority of the stock moto guys in that class are over 400lbs on the scale. By increasing the weight, it levels the playing field in that class. This was not our choice, but more of a choice that the class wanted.
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Jim Derrig
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:03 am Post subject: |
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I think the answer depends on where you race. From SIMA:
Stock – Moto, Honda & TM Tag ICC (385 lbs) Modified Honda, ICC, TM Cross (410lbs) |
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Michael Taksa
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| If you are trying to achieve same lap times, then 10-20 lbs difference should do the trick, but it is track specific. |
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Britt Robinson
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| Jim Derrig wrote: | | Stock – Moto, Honda & TM Tag ICC (385 lbs) Modified Honda, ICC, TM Cross (410lbs) |
Those are the weights we run in Tri-Cities, Jim. Do you know if the NW Gold Cup is broken down the same way?
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Todd Kageals
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SPEC TIRE: Hoosier MMXA
Air box Mandatory
Stock TMK9ES - 395lbs
Stock Honda – 405 lbs
Built Moto/ICC – 420 lbs
*Per WKA Chassis Rules
That's copied straight from the MMX rules for the upcoming season. All shifters will run together in "open shifter". |
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Joe Ricard
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Nola runs all Shifter together.
385 Stock
400 Mod/ ICC
we also have the DD2
s running with us but no idea what weight. I suspect what ever RMAX rule is
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