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lifting front left wheel on shifter..

 
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marc-andre hubert



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:23 am    Post subject: lifting front left wheel on shifter.. Reply with quote

i notice on some quick sweepers turning left mostly, that my front left wheel comes off the ground quite a bit, on my 125cc shifter, kart feels good, but i can only put down 80% throttle coming out of corners from a push..

32mm chassis no rear bar, do have side and front.
med axle med hubs, caster is aggresive.
415lbs with driver im 6 205lbs. 2 strut tight per side, seat is just under frame. 13psi yellow cold off track 15.5 all 4 corners.
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TJ Koyen



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only way the inside front tire can come off the ground during corner is because of big countersteer from oversteer. Or if your frame is massively bent.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

frame not bent, and not oversteering badly, as im going into the hairpin and accelarating hard i can see inside front wheel off the ground has if my back end is too stiff? next time ill trhow a go pro on there
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could be 2-wheeling too?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard to diagnose over internet of course. Is the track gripping up? Wider front track width will give you less lateral load xfer, so you could try reducing widening the front and removing some caster to balance out the increased jacking effect from the front width increase.

Could be seating position as well, throw some towels behind your back and observe the changes, see if you like them. FI you do, move the seat forward.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

front is set at 46" my seat is 25.xx rougly both side and top seat to axle was 10.2 wich i dropped now to 8.5 " seat is 1/4 under rail.

would removing side bar help chassis twist and keep it down. that track is grippy.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reduce caster until you develop a bit of an under-steer, then back-up on the adjustment a tad.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found positive caster gives you grip but to much will lift the wheel. Is it possible that your castor was increased for grip to over come another problem? I think I would try reducing castor and if you get to loose look to other changes to get the grip back.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

at my local track i need the grip so i did add castor and kart feels awesome, andersen has more grip and did not change the set up, thanks for all the input if i do it again i will try some of your suggestion
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