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David McDowell
Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Posts: 58 Location: United States, California, Mt Shasta
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:17 pm Post subject: MG White or Yellow |
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| What is the difference in compounds. On there website they only have the yellows on the scale. So where do the whites fall. |
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John Matthews
Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 1995 Location: United States, Michigan, Williamsburg
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Same tire I believe, big old discussion on it in the "PKRA" thread in the general section.
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TJ Koyen
Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 1425
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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I assume you mean the Yellows vs. the SKUSA White?
Whites felt like they had a little more grip initially and fell off a bit quicker. They're pretty dang close though. _________________ T.J. Koyen
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David McDowell
Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Posts: 58 Location: United States, California, Mt Shasta
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:45 am Post subject: |
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TJ,
Yes you are correct. |
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David McDowell
Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Posts: 58 Location: United States, California, Mt Shasta
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I think I figured it out it seems to be the same tire but one is distributed by MG usa and the other by MG international. |
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John Matthews
Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 1995 Location: United States, Michigan, Williamsburg
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, how do they do that???? _________________ John Matthews
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David McDowell
Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Posts: 58 Location: United States, California, Mt Shasta
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Good question John but I cant tell if you are being factious or serious. From what I read else where the two different divisions have contracts with different clubs and organizations, and to make sure one doesn't cross into the others territory they have created the same tire with different colors to keep the two divisions separate. SKUSA vs Club. |
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Matt Dixon
Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 532 Location: United States, California, Norcal
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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One has a stiffer sidewall _________________ Matt Dixon
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Walt Gifford
Joined: 19 Jul 2002 Posts: 4304 Location: United States, South Jerrrsey,
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:52 am Post subject: |
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I always thought the white was softer than the yellow, never ran either one just talked to guys around the pits.
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John Matthews
Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 1995 Location: United States, Michigan, Williamsburg
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:38 am Post subject: |
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My only point is how clubs and organizations let tire companies push them around by offering "exclusive" deals and "spec" tires that can only be purchased through "authorized" distributors.
When I started supporting drivers at PKRA they had Bridgestone tires as "spec" and I could buy them from two different distributors. It wasn't much profit but the only marking required on tires was a paint pen after you pulled off from qualifying because the rule was you had to run the same tires for all qualifying and all races. It didn't matter if you bought tires from me, from a mail order house, or your cousin in New York got them for you as a birthday present.This worked out since the club "spec" was the same as IKF "spec" and and racers from different tracks could race with us and we could race with them.
Then MG came and offered the club a special deal where there was some kind of kickback to the club/drivers. They set up one of the local shops as a distributor and told all the other shops to buy from them. After some complaining the club told people they could get their tires elsewhere but they had to have them "marked" by the shop with the distributorship. That was it for me selling tires since I wasn't going to buy from my competitor and build his business up and shipping on crates from out of state made my cost too much.
But, the problem I really have is the effect on racers. Sure, we all know tires are expensive and we have to have them. I don't even really mind that privately owned series have special deals where you have to get your tires from them (they are private businesses after all). But when a club makes a "spec" tire that's different from the "spec" that their affiliated sanctioning body runs it messes with the whole Local-Regional-National structure that should be the backbone of amateur racing. It's not even the expense of the tires, but the added expense of testing on a different tire than you normally use.
Sure, one lucky team gets a free set of tires every race. And maybe the club gets a kickback from a business that sells one product racers need. But I think racers get better when they compete away from their home tracks and anything that makes that harder frustrates me (don't get me started on flathead engine rules). I just don't think the trade-off is worth it, clubs need to be in the business of looking after their membership and sticking with national rules just makes sense.
JMHO, _________________ John Matthews
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