Yamaha masters nationally

Tom Sherman · Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:21 pm Post subject:

All masters classes should be over 40. I'd be back in a heartbeat. And no letting in younger ages that pass a ceratin weight threshold.
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A cranky former old karter

David Womack · Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:04 pm Post subject:

I'm curious. What has Yamaha ever done for karting? I've never seen an event or series sponsored by Yamaha.

Mike Burrell · Joined: 22 Mar 2003 Posts: 720

Yamaha just provided an affordable production engine that could be used for years with a much lower parts cost than anything from Europe... So by not paying of sanctioning bodies or promoters they kept their engines and parts affordable.

It wasn't till the TAG or Rotax people started buying classes and media attention and sanctioning bodies started messing with rules for a perception of cost effectiveness and parity did the Yamaha classes decline. Still the best deal in karting if you ask me...
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Mike Burrell · Joined: 22 Mar 2003 Posts: 720

I used to joke that Masters classes should be anyone with a mortgage, child, and job they had to be Monday morning! You seem to drive a little more responsibly when you have responsibilities...
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Greg Wright · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:24 am Post subject:

Sean Cook · Joined: 28 Jul 2001 Posts: 82

Without making this an argumentative topic Lynn does have a point...I remember seeing Kyle Adkins and Lynn Haddock running very well and winning in their 40's....against the kids...IDK how they did it lol.

Ren Benjaman · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 285

I would think about dumping the "Masters" badge and find a new ID.

Maybe a fresh start.
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John Cleveland · Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 30

I would think over 40 would be a good cut off. That's a good point about 15 being the starting point of "senior". I try to remind guys all the time, I'll say good luck and remember we have to go to work Monday. Teenagers still have stars in their eyes and it makes for very different racing.The older guys always seem to understand the motto "Race hard but race clean".

Mike great points. Yamaha doesn't need to do more than its done. It provides a great platform for people to begin or to continue racing. If your budget can afford TAG or shifter, great. I wish I could, I would certainly be there. What the yamaha does is allow me to carry a fully prepped spare. I know if I'm traveling to a big event and something happens I know I've got a fully prepped motor that is just as good. I couldn't do that with TAG at $3,000ea for a blueprinted motor.
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David Womack · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:05 pm Post subject:

Haddock and Adkins were way beyond us normal racers. Put them in the back and they would be at the front before the end of the race. Without punting anyone or getting a scratch on the kart. I've seen them do it many times.

Michael Milanovich · Joined: 19 Mar 2010 Posts: 156

I like the idea of 25 or older are okay to race if you weight 200 lbs or more with driving equipment on. However, my thoughts are kind of bias because I fall into that category.

David Cole · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:40 am Post subject:

Brian Robson · Joined: 24 Jul 2001 Posts: 145

how about make it like it was.

(example weight structure)

Yamaha 365 lbs
Piston Port 385lbs (kpv, TKM, Dap etc..)
Reed/Rotary 405 lbs (TT-75, etc...)

100 cc Stock I believe is what it was called. open pipe, clutch, etc.. Still is alot of stuff being sold cheap, or collecting dust. Its not as easy to tune like TaG (clutch slip vs pipe, vs flex, vs carb, vs everything else) why make a one engine series in a formula that is all but extinct (except for specific areas)

No 200lb kids, 40 plus

(just an opinion)