Pipe for direct drive 100cc reed engine

Jon Romenesko

So i've picked up a late 90s Vortex ICA (air-cooled) as something to play around with during the winter (sprint track). It didn't come with a pipe, and I honestly have no idea what to look for. I've seen the term 'vevey' tossed around a bit, but my google-fu doesn't turn up much with that search. Not much on ebay either. From what I can tell, pipes for the Leopard look similar, but i'm not sure if they'll work.

So what should I be looking for? Even better, where should i be looking for one? Doesn't have to be anything special, just has to work for a 100cc DD Sprint application. Better still, does anyone out there have one they're willing to part with for cheap?! Laughing

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Kirk Deason · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:15 am Post subject:

see below: http://www.ekartingnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=118713

I was asking this for you. I have an extra pipe to get you on track. If you find the RIGHT pipe then you can give me mine back. Did you get a motor mount?

Jim McMahon · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:28 am Post subject:

The likes of a TaG pipe would be OK. Ideally something from a ROK or a Sonik. I tried a Sonik TX125 pipe with my Vortex FA rotary and it worked well.
Does your motor have the plastic cowling around the barrel?
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Roger Miller · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:36 am Post subject:

One of the proper pipes for your engine is the RLV S1 pipe.

Online shops like TS Racing and Russell Karting can source these, as can any kart shop that handles RLV parts.

Jim McMahon · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:15 am Post subject:

I've always wondered how the like of the S1 and the Q98 etc compare to what was usually run/homologated with these motors. To me the are really weird looking! Faster?
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Jon Romenesko · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:16 am Post subject:

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Jim McMahon · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject:

That's a VL-98. If you are a lighter driver you'll be giving some shifters a hard time. A lot of pipes will work with that. You could even use a JICA pipe if you had to. But I would go with a TaG pipe from one of the higher revving motors like a Sonik TX125 or a Vortex RokTT. Although they run with a clutch as far as the pipe is concerned they are direct drive.

Enjoy!
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Jon Romenesko · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject:

Thanks Jim! Finding a Sonik or RokTT pipe should be a bit easier. That also answers another question I had (wtf model engine is it).
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Michael Valiante · Advertiser Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Posts: 110

Hi Jon,

We have ICA pipes available if your still looking from when the class was at it's peak. Let me know if your still looking and I can help you out.

michaelv@italianmotors.com

Thanks,

Michael

www.italianmotors.com

BTW, thanks for the plug Rob!

Riley Will · Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:18 pm Post subject:

Get the 100/110 475mm pipe... Set it at 390mm to the constant and let'R Buck!
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mike clements · Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:36 pm Post subject:

After racing for years with clutches, I went up to Vegas for Eur-Am Challenge back in 1985. The best 135cc sprint racers from the world were there to race. Most American hot dogs were running their high ported K-30 Komets with axle clutches. Of course, the Europeans brought their direct drive K-30 and the Cali Kart chassis and whipped us soundly.
Morbidelli won with Mike Wilson second. The top three Americans were Todd Spaude, Ronnie Emmick and Scott Preutt. They finished 9,10 and 11 in the A main.
Went back home and decided to run my TKM 135 as a direct drive. Not having the correct pipe, it was like wrestling a bear trying to hang onto the thing. It came off the corner like a stock Briggs and then suddenly felt like a Mac truck hit you in the rear end. It made for a very exciting ride and even lost a few pounds and built up some upper body strength.
I would love to try it again with the right engine and pipe combination.
I guess the moral of the story is to have the engine ported for direct drive and get the correct pipe. Life will be much kinder if you do. Smile

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Jim McMahon · Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:29 am Post subject:

Cool story Mike. I would have expected clutch to be faster, so that's interesting. Here's hoping for a return to simpler karts going forward!

Riley how about adding one of those little compression relief valves to a BRC150 in direct drive form.
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