Wheel to Wheel!!!

Ken Schilling · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 1345

Here's a really cool video of karting back in the day. Yes, it's before my time... Laughing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crz7X8W5SS4&feature=share
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Oscar Aguilera · Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 1614

cool vid...that was about 4-5 years before i got into it...but all that equipment was still around!!

when you had to make a clean pass like a true open wheel racing machine!!

Jim McMahon · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:38 pm Post subject:

That's a great find!
Formula NFB as I called it (NO F**KING Bodywork)
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Chris Hurst · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:11 pm Post subject:

But...but...how did they align the karts without lasers? No Mychrons? How are they even driving!?

haha joking aside, great post. Very fun to watch. I'm a bit of a sucker for 70s films, they were so great. Heres what I'm wondering though:

When did the driving suits of today become common place? I like how everyone is in jeans and leather jackets...too cool. Was just talking to my parents the other night about how people were less concerned with safety and how they raised me and my brother to learn on our own and if we got hurt falling off the wall in the backyard that would teach us faster than trying to be overly safe.

People coddle their kids too much now and I think it has a huge effect on them when they become adults.

Anyway, thanks !

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Steve O'Hara · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:33 pm Post subject:

Here's the largest class at the 1971 IKF Sprint Nationals at Camden, Ohio
Started out with 68 entries... these clips are the final three heats.
Sorry, no sound.... didn't have the technology in the old 8mm movie camera back then.

It was called Formula NEB back then... Not Even Bumpers!!
Watch and see passing taking place every lap throughout the field and there is NO CONTACT... well, almost no contact LOL
Hard to believe that many karts could race so close with no bumpers, body work, front brakes and on skinny little tires sliding all over and we didn't have to hit each other to have a good race.
Steve O'Hara

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJhAa-x-lX4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH_o3ul0ES8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvMvCDKtXyg

Chris Hurst · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:55 am Post subject:

John Matthews · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:40 am Post subject:

Yep, that's how we did it.

Notice there's even guys racing different engines together in the same class....
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Brian G. Wilson · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:18 am Post subject:

I remember watching my dad race, probably around '71 or '72, on a little track on Hwy 19 in Clearwater, FL. If I remember correctly, it was a short little track with fairly steep banked corners and an over/under bridge. I was only 4 or 5 at the time, but I fell in love with the smell & sound of two strokes.
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Derek Hastings · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:50 am Post subject: Banking

They are becoming hard to find, but the high banks are still out there. Not quite the Camden high bank 180, but I believe the vintage guys stopped at Whiteland this summer.

Jim McMahon · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:05 am Post subject:

gradual increase in kart and driver weight along with grippier tires leading to more chassis cracking on the compression of the banking?
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Walt Gifford · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:53 pm Post subject:

Those look like fairly modern karts compared to the ones we raced pre KT100 era. I had fun in that Rupp A bone.

That track is something else, lots of very technical turns and elevation changes. Is it still around?

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Oscar Aguilera · Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 1614

in all fairness the only thing that i would bring back is the lack of bumpers... this vid is even before driver fairings which came shortly after, then side pods, then front spoilers.

the different motors caused just as much drama as today trying to run tag motors together. the chassis were more narrow..rear width was 50" not 55.

front alignment was easy with no front brakes or body work to get in the way. and most had no clue as to camber or caster...we ran the karts the way they came.

it really wasnt till the late 80's that i stared seeiing more drivers start to tune and more parts to tun with.

and until horstman came around...clutches sucked. they werent consistent! or reliable!

just my opinion