United States Pro Kart Series

Robert Bujdoso · Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Posts: 88

Here is a new topic. Why make the age for the Leopard semi-pro to start at 14 yrs old and for the leopard-pro to start at 16? Why not just have the leopard pro age to start at 15? The sooner you can get them to transition over the better they will be in the long run.
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Mark Dismore Jr · Advertiser Joined: 21 Jul 2001 Posts: 1099

I'd like to clarify the thoughts behind the 30mm header.

First, it was looked at as a compromise for the Master racers that wanted Yamaha instead of Leopard, there's a good amount of them out there. Even with the 30mm header the class would still have 10+ HP over a Yamaha but it was hoped this would increase interest in the class from the Yamaha guys.

Second, it was hoped that the small reduction in power would make the class more competitive and benefit the more "seasoned" shall we call them, racers in the Masters class.

When you try to whittle classes down to the bare essentials its hard to make everyone happy (okay, impossible). The hope was to help bridge the gap between the Yamaha Masters guys and the hardcore TaG Masters guys.

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roberto perez · Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 189

Jason Ewers · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:18 am Post subject:

John Salsbury · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:46 am Post subject:

Jason - way to kill a thread! Very Happy

I think its great for someone to bring a fresh approach to how a kart series should be run. I really hope (and believe) that focusing on the racers needs will result in a successful program. having said that, I can't say that I disagree with anything you posted. I believe there are at least a couple other major organizations that offer Tag Masters so I kinda wonder if this will serve to water down the fields in other orgs or possibly reduce the potential fields in this one, or if the Tag Masters guys will just look at this as 4 or 5 added weekends of racing and just add it to their existing schedules - time will tell. Yamaha Masters guys have been eliminated from the schedule of most orgs now even though I don't believe the fields were much smaller than the Tag fields that replaced them (someone may correct me on this if wrong). I think a Yamaha Masters class with the new Pipe combination would have been a big success with many folks that think karting has left them behind. I was thinking I might even give it a try. I could spring for an added $250 to get set up for that (and probably get my tail handed to me in the races) and I could live with that.... I'm not willing to spend 10 times that (minimum) to get into Tag Masters for the same results. I am out for fun, but its like anything else, everyone has to determine how much it is worth to them and right now I don't see me getting 10 times more fun out of Tag Masters vs Yamaha Masters. I suspect we will support the series with one or two of my sons competing but spending that sort of money on a Tag setup for me takes away how much I can help them with their efforts.
I suspect that the organizers had many of these same discussions while determining which classes to offer in the series and determined that this structure would offer them the best chance of success. I don't have any money in it so I certainly don't have any say in the decisions. They have posted on several occasions that they are interested in hearing back from the racers so I decided to chime in.

roberto perez · Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 189

Going back to the weight issue, should we assume, that the big guys got their way???
Based on the website for USPKS it is at 395......... Sad

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Mark Peters · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject:

Hey Roberto - come over and join me in Semi-Pro where the weight is 335. Of course we'll be running the reduced header and I'll only be 44 years older than the youngest drivers Shocked

but I hey I should be able to find someone in the pits to help me lift my kart Laughing

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Scott Henry · Joined: 30 Aug 2001 Posts: 23 Location: Batavia, IL

I agree with John Salsbury's comment "I think a Yamaha Masters class with the new Pipe combination would have been a big success with many folks that think karting has left them behind".
In the heyday of karting, Yamaha was the most popular class. These racers are now Masters in age and a little heavier (as happens with age). My believe Yamaha is where their comfort level would lie rather than having to learn a new engine package. Combine that with the fact that many still have Yamaha's left in the basement or garage and I think that would bring more racers.

Jeff Salak · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:13 pm Post subject:

I think the Masters weight is fair for everyone.

The Badger Tag Masters Series, 90% of field could hold there own in a National Series. Most stay close to home. Its one of the BEST club Tag Masters series in the country in my opinion. If you can find the space for the extra 10#'s Mark give it a go.

Gary Osterholt · Site Admin Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 2771

Thanks for making the Masters age 30+.

I'll do my best to be at Mooresville, riding around the back and having some fun.
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Keith Bridgeman · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:44 am Post subject: