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Blake Choquer
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 Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: F2 |
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Michael
Is this only for France you think?
All I know is the D2 could be improved upon. Not my favorite tire to drive on.
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Eric Alexander
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| Using Google Translate it appears to be the next evolution of the D2. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: F2 |
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| Blake Choquer wrote: |
All I know is the D2 could be improved upon. Not my favorite tire to drive on.
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Michael Boone
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Blake,
Here in France the last couple of years we've been using a Bridge-stone YLZ thats almost like the YKB for almost every rotax race except Rotax challenge
If I had to guess I'd say its going to be a softer side wall and maybe maybe a little softer rubber
Whether this tire will evaluable everywhere is a wait and see.
The rumer here is Bridgestone will be getting out of kart tires   but you know how rumers go???!!!! 
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:53 am Post subject: |
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EKN was notified by MAXSpeed Group that the F2 is exactly like the D2 Mojo tire, just branded F2 for French competitions.
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Peter Zambos
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Dave, I'm still not sure that settles the matter. In that release that M. Boone had, it said that the French D2 was being replaced by the F2. This would make me think that either there was no real change in France (just in the model name), or their D2 was originally different then ours, or their F2 actually is different and the U.S. market just isn't getting it (or getting it yet). Either way, a little more clarification would be appreciated. |
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| Peter Zambos wrote: | | Dave, I'm still not sure that settles the matter. In that release that M. Boone had, it said that the French D2 was being replaced by the F2. This would make me think that either there was no real change in France (just in the model name), or their D2 was originally different then ours, or their F2 actually is different and the U.S. market just isn't getting it (or getting it yet). Either way, a little more clarification would be appreciated. |
The D2 and F2 are the same, as I stated above. The French competitions will utilize the F2 tire. Thus, if they do not run the F2 tire, they would be removed from the event. Just like running a SKUSA race not on the MG 'SKUSA' tire or a WKA race not on a Bridgestone spec tire.
So, in their regulations, the D2 tire was replaced by the F2 tire as the spec tire to be used in 2013. Just like the D1 tire is now the spec tire in the Junior Max, Mini Max and Micro Max in the United States to put them in line with the rest of the world.
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Michael Boone
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a little confused David if they are the same then whats the point of giving us a different name(f2) maybe $$$$$oops€€€€€€
Although the Jr's in France run the dunlop SL3's and NOT the mojos! 
I need to look a little more into this on my end!
MB
Maxspeed may also not want to deal with demands for a different tire  
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David Cole
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From speaking with MAXSpeed, its to ensure the tires used for French events are purchased from the French Mojo distributors, just like it is in the United States and Canada.
But yes, you may know more being in the country then we do, and I'm sure you have the connections.
I would hope that all official Rotax Max Challenges across the world would use the same tires at all events, obviously by your statement that is not the case.
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Michael Boone
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| David Cole wrote: | From speaking with MAXSpeed, its to ensure the tires used for French events are purchased from the French Mojo distributors, just like it is in the United States and Canada.
that makes sence!
But yes, you may know more being in the country then we do, and I'm sure you have the connections.
I'll let you know what I find out
I would hope that all official Rotax Max Challenges across the world would use the same tires at all events, obviously by your statement that is not the case. |
Here in France Rotax Jr's is called "National" it replaced National 100 when it was killed! We have the Champion of France "National" at our track next year 200 pilots just Rotax Jr's " BUT " this year also National SR same motor different age and weight.
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Michael Boone
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Ok David and everyone
This is what I was told yesterday the F2 is the same as the D2 it's just F for France
"BUT" The D2 has gone through some changes "What exactly" he couldn't tell me as they haven't seen the tire yet nobody has and MOJO's not talking but was told there's been some improvements  ! Everyone will just have to wait till Mid february when they deliver the tires.
On another Note The Bridgestone tires are dead in france only one class is using them cadets. So no more Bridgestone Cup 
Hearing lots of good feedback on MG tires!! May need to keep and eye on them for the future in Europe
MB
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