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EKN Trackside - 2012 Rotax Grand Finals - Team USA
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emmick and TrackMagic are all but gone aren't they. Good call on Coyote though.
It will be interesting to see next year. The euros always have faired well at the supernats, rock island etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a Offset Trick Chassis? Now that would be interesting. I think old Rogero would have a few tricks (no pun intended) up his sleeve for that.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to my question, if qualified for the Worlds, what is the cost to enter/compete in it!? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew M. Coulter wrote:
Back to my question, if qualified for the Worlds, what is the cost to enter/compete in it!? Laughing


Andrew, It costs zero to enter in it..You have to buy a CIK lisc for 600.00 and pay for any damage to the kart. More information can be found here.. http://www.gorotax.com/
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jim rogero wrote:
Andrew M. Coulter wrote:
Back to my question, if qualified for the Worlds, what is the cost to enter/compete in it!? Laughing


Andrew, It costs zero to enter in it..You have to buy a CIK lisc for 600.00 and pay for any damage to the kart.


Along with any travel expenses along the way.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the Rotax is a great kart pack, except for the tires, but what I don't understand is how come the serious European karters from the CIK FIA or WSK events don't bother with Rotax? How come some of the biggest names in Karting like Ardigo', Lammers, Verstappen and Russell were not in Portimao? But they were at the the Supernats in Vegas?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrizio Torregiani wrote:
I know the Rotax is a great kart pack, except for the tires, but what I don't understand is how come the serious European karters from the CIK FIA or WSK events don't bother with Rotax? How come some of the biggest names in Karting like Ardigo', Lammers, Verstappen and Russell were not in Portimao? But they were at the the Supernats in Vegas?


That's not what Rotax is about. It was suppose to be for the club racers, and it has grown beyond that. Of course your not going to see the 'factory' drivers racing in Rotax as it's not the top level of karting. However, Ben Cooper was a factory driver for Tony Kart in between his stints at the Rotax Grand Final championships.

IMO, those karters in WSK and CIK are racing toward open wheel car. where Rotax drivers are a step below, not so much interested in moving up the motorsports ranks. Example, the entire DD2 Masters field.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you also have many KZ drivers like Fore' and Ardigo' who are also not moving up and out of karting, but I understand your point now.
What about here in the US, for the driver that wants to climb the latter and pursue a carrier, which karting series should he/she prioritize and put the time and money in?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patricio
Mike here. If you are still in karts at 17 then you are not moving up,or out. Open wheel life starts at 16. Racing cars is very expensive. I know with a top team for F3 is more than a million a year. The lower level stuff is not bad. BIG MONEY.

The many kids I race kf3 with this year don't race Rotax because its not very popular but it is growing. It is also a considered a club level class by most Europeans. This for sure doesn't mean the older drivers are not talented. If KF keeps getting expensive then Rotax Euro will get bigger. KF has an expense problem for sure. The next thing we will see is an Italian engine company making a motor package to compete with Rotax. That will tell you Rotax is getting into their KF pockets.

And about chassis for a world final. I would guess they need to be homologated if its a CIK race. Coyote, emmick, track magic are not homologated. The chassis that will go to a Rotax world is usually a chassis looking for exposure. I bet Praga will be there next year.
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