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patrick slattery



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:04 pm    Post subject: New WKA pipe testing Reply with quote

We put the new Yamaha pipe on the Chassis dyno for some testing and I think you will be impressed with the performance and sound. It has a nice lower pitched sound, the good part though is it had tons of more power on the bottom, and it runs out at the top just shy of what an SSX currently is.

Peak torque is around 8200 to 8500 and does not have the double dips that a HPV pipe has. Temps seemed to be about 50 degrees less that the SSX and the carb tuning was similiar to the SSX. This test was on a Woltjer built motor for SSX so nothing special done for this pipe.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Pat,

How would you say this compares to (if at all) the old tried and true L2 pipe of the past (and someplaces present, Very Happy )?

Also Pat, what do you see as the benefits to the Senior Karter of this pipe over the SSX Can other than the odvious power differences?

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Ray Mcik



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good info Pat, but not sure if should trust info from members on this site...
I think i will wait to hear from the local guy's.......


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Oh wait you are a local guy........ Laughing Wink sorry could not resist that one...

Pat , Seriously thank you for taking the time to test it....
Couple of questions, what is considered Top end for a SSX ? 13.9 , 14,000 14,500 ?

What do you think the effects are going to be on a single disk L&T dry clutch on a track we run locally ? (more turns less straightaways ) I ask because of the increased torque at the lower end ...

And do you think that if someone was to message the engine they could get more gains hp wise from a typical can set-up? Or will basically what has applied to the SSX can equipped Yamaha be the same ? I know you're not a engine builder but ...
typical two disk dry clutches should see less heat if the engagement is lower correct ?
I will be interested in seeing this tested on the track .
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patrick slattery



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray Mcik wrote:
Good info Pat, but not sure if should trust info from members on this site...
I think i will wait to hear from the local guy's.......


What the heck is that supposed to mean. Sad


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Oh wait you are a local guy........ Laughing Wink sorry could not resist that one...

Pat , Seriously thank you for taking the time to test it....
Couple of questions, what is considered Top end for a SSX ? 13.9 , 14,000 14,500 ?

What do you think the effects are going to be on a single disk L&T dry clutch on a track we run locally ? (more turns less straightaways ) I ask because of the increased torque at the lower end ...

And do you think that if someone was to message the engine they could get more gains hp wise from a typical can set-up? Or will basically what has applied to the SSX can equipped Yamaha be the same ? I know you're not a engine builder but ...
typical two disk dry clutches should see less heat if the engagement is lower correct ?
I will be interested in seeing this tested on the track .
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patrick slattery



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron Gordon wrote:
So Pat,

How would you say this compares to (if at all) the old tried and true L2 pipe of the past (and someplaces present, Very Happy )?

Also Pat, what do you see as the benefits to the Senior Karter of this pipe over the SSX Can other than the odvious power differences?

Ron


Not similar to L2 Pipe, peak torque is about 2000 rpm lower, HP is somewhere, between the SSX and L2. Much quieter also.

SBX, was much louder, had about 1000 higher peak torque, and lower HP than the new pipe.
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Frankie Schaffier



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for taking the time to share your pull results. In the ball part of what others have been saying.

Has Camden made the call yet on running the pipe next year or not?
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Ray Mcik



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Frankie,

I believe we are going to wait till after Daytona to decide what the club is going to do...we want to see what the feed back is..
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray Mcik wrote:
Hi Frankie,

I believe we are going to wait till after Daytona to decide what the club is going to do...we want to see what the feed back is..


Hello Ray, hope things are well on your end.

Thanks for the reply, I'm guessing these's a couple clubs doing the same. I'm assuming GLSS will follow suit with the rule change. It'll be interesting to see if Route 66, Circleville and you folks follow suit. I'm hoping that's the case as the Yam class don't really need to be split like the pipe/can days.

We'll just have to wait and see... I'll pass on what on Fremont's direction is once known. Thanks again for the reply.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GLSS will comply with WKA.

RT66 and KRA as far as I know are keeping with the existing rules for both juniors and seniors. (Ie, no restrictor, and no pipe).
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim Reed wrote:
GLSS will comply with WKA.

RT66 and KRA as far as I know are keeping with the existing rules for both juniors and seniors. (Ie, no restrictor, and no pipe).


That's good to know that GLSS is folowing suit. I'd also heard the same about RT66 and KRA that they were going to stick with the cans, but didn't know for sure so I held my comment.

Thanks Tim for follow up.
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