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Richard Thoms



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:51 pm    Post subject: rebuild or replace starter? Reply with quote

Starter went kaput. I'm considering rebuild kit (~$35) or aftermarket starter (~$100). Probably won't go for the RMax starter (~$220) - I just run club racing and usually TaG.

What is involved in a rebuild? Is it worth the trouble/savings?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the starter off. If the Gold housing isn't cracked and the bushing in the end isn't worn, then do a repair kit. If the housing is cracked, you can weld and grind it, but then it becomes a spare.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried rebuild. Its a pain in an axe. Decided to replace starter
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to replace my starter as it crapped out during an FWT event last year. When we got back from the FWT I did rebuild the old starter to keep as a spare. As Igor noted, it is a bit of a pain to line up the brushes and get the thing bolted back together - but it's doable. Took 15 minutes or so, once the starter was off the engine.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joey Guyon wrote:
Take the starter off. If the Gold housing isn't cracked and the bushing in the end isn't worn, then do a repair kit. If the housing is cracked, you can weld and grind it, but then it becomes a spare.


+1 - it's a pain to get it back together, but given the $100+ bill for a new starter it's worth the rebuilt hassle.

If you go the rebuild route, put a bit of RTV on the brush wires first - they'll last longer.

Gent (Shark Shifter) sells a trick starter support that all but eliminates the risk of breaking the gold housing. Also worth it (especially if you spring for a new starter motor).

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are Rotax starters that much harder to put new brushes in than a Leopard?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the rebuild done. It was tricky but with a little help and strategically placed index cards I was able to get the brushes installed. I did not see Tim's note about RTV until just now (doh!) but I don't think I'll open it back up for that! Next time for sure.
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Josh Buttafoco



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rotax... leopard rebuilt are both simple and easy...

Don't waste the money buying a new starter when you break a brush. Do it once and you ll kick yourself for buying that new starter.
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David Flori



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are good places to get the replacement brushes?
Any quality and inexpensive options?

Can we just walk in to a place that carries brushes and get the size that fits these rotax starters, or are there any strange features or compounds that make it worth getting the standard replacement kits?

Seems like a fairly standard brush, with a side/top cast brush wire being the only specialty about it.



If replacement is required,is it better to go with the OEM rotax starter or OK to go aftermarket for the starter in this specific case?

Where are the best places to go to get a replacement starter both aftermarket and OEM?


TIA
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Chris Rock



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:34 am    Post subject: brush replacement Reply with quote

From the Leopard owners manual
Start at page 36

brush replacement

It's actually pretty easy to do once you make the two little U shaped wire pieces
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looked around, any good reasonably priced sources to replace the brushes someone could pass along?

I have looked at my starter, and it really only needs to have the brushes replaced, and it will be good as new if i can find a reasonable source.

If I can find some reasonably priced units I will surely hit them with a little RTV or silicone or rubberization product to damp them and inhibit vibration.

TIA
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